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Old 12-07-13, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ss600
It wouldn't be okay either way, it just so happens he is.
I think his point was that they chucked that in the title to play that "card"...

this is is nothing new in this industry or any other. I chuckle to myself and some here and their "outrage" at this...as if this is something new.

If anyone here is so outraged that they want to shed their Roubaix, shoot me a PM, I'll gladly pick up the shipping charges to take that evil bike off your hands for you. You know, so you can show Specialized who's boss.

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Uh oh. There's another Café Roubaix in Australia.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven

I don't know where you are coming from with your derogatory statements but it's not justified in this instance.
...yeah, sorry, but I think it is: Cases filed matching "Specialized Bicycle Components, Inc."


Also, in the interest of full disclosure, I've already argued this issue in another thread: Specialized bicycle components suing two former employees
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...what would be cool would be if the town of Roubaix were to file suit
against Specialized, Inc et al for assuming trademark rights to the name of their town....

which predates Specialized by many centuries.
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I read the article fully. you should read it again to get a better understanding. I am saying it is unfortunate and avoidable that he is in this position of his own doing due to his lack of business set up research. Others can debate right or wrong, I simply said it was avoidable.
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No room for indignation when Legalese is spoken. Too bad so sad Mr. Working Man, the Big Bike Company trademarked the name.
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Originally Posted by GuNoKo
I read the article fully. you should read it again to get a better understanding. I am saying it is unfortunate and avoidable that he is in this position of his own doing due to his lack of business set up research. Others can debate right or wrong, I simply said it was avoidable.
He apparently thought he had done his research.

Richter, ... says he did some research and felt comfortable that naming his store after a location like Roubaix wouldn’t contradict Canada’s intellectual property protection laws
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...what would be cool would be if the town of Roubaix were to file suit
against Specialized, Inc et al for assuming trademark rights to the name of their town....

which predates Specialized by many centuries.
Or maybe they should just ban US cycling teams for a year.
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Originally Posted by znomit
Or maybe they should just ban US cycling teams for a year.
What in the world does Trek or Garmin have to do with this? The specialized sponsored teams are not US teams.
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This is stupid.
Spesh should drop the lawsuit, & lose the rights the Roubaix.
Why did they decide to trademark the use of Roubaix?
Because they could...
Bullies IMO.

There's many more battles Spesh could be fighting.
ie counterfeit product.
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You can trademark a city name? Really? That sounds ridiculous.

And outrageous. The limit of my Specialized purchases has been a Toupe a few years ago, but I will never purchase a Specialized product again, and will definitely go out of my way to dissuade other people from purchasing anything from the company.
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When they find out that I have several pair of Veloflex Roubaix Tubulars in my garage can I expect to be used by Specialized??
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Their lawyers are "SMART & BIGGAR".
https://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-ci...tIndexOnPage=1
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Originally Posted by rousseau
You can trademark a city name? Really? That sounds ridiculous.
....I trademarked Condom tm several years ago and have my personal attorneys working
on a huge lawsuit that will make me wealthy when companies like Trojan, Durex, and Naturalamb
decide to pay me off rather than undergo the expenses of a legal defense.



Condom
France , also known as Condom-en-Armagnac, Condom is located on the Via Podiensis and home
to two castles that date back to the 13th century the ChÃteau de Mothes and the ChÃteau de Pouypardin.

Other than the castles and odd name, the town is known for the production of Armagnac brandy.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...what would be cool would be if the town of Roubaix were to file suit
against Specialized, Inc et al for assuming trademark rights to the name of their town....

which predates Specialized by many centuries.

this needs to happen.
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American companies and celebrities have been notorious for trademarking names that have been in use in Australia for decades, then using the big legal stick to threaten those who continue to use the name.

Target is one. The local Targett store in Launceston, Tasmania, won.

Katy Perry is another. The clothing designer Katie Perry won that one, too.

Ugg Boots, the woolskin boots that are now a fashion accessory in the US, was stolen as a trademark by an American company and every other Australian company that used the name has been forced to stop using the term, despite doing so for the past 30 years.

I could go on.

This business doesn't surprise me. But is enough for me to put Specialized aside as a brand I would like to own.
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Their lawyers are "SMART & BIGGAR".
https://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-ci...tIndexOnPage=1
That patent doesn't seem to cover retail locations and the name in question is "CAFE ROUBAIX". It really does come down to the shop owner not being able to foot the bill to defend the name.
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I will trademark the name "trademark".

This isnt a problem with specialized but with IP law. The most ludicrous things can be trademarked because the law allows it. Maybe the law was set up to protect richer companies.
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Opps I hope no one tells them my handle…. Yet I'm glad I read this before next month, I was planning to buy a tarmac expert. now it looks like I will have to go test ride other bikes. its ok I think the colors suck on the 2014 anyway.
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Haha I wouldn't be surprised.

My long time personal boycott of specialized and specialized shops has been justified once again.
Big S is quite literally the d-bag of bicycle brands when it comes to respectable business practices.


A good time to remind you guys of what they did to LBS's when they rolled out their new dealer franchise agreements a couple of years back, here's an example close to home for me:
https://forums.mtbr.com/specialized/s...re-325856.html

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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
That patent doesn't seem to cover retail locations and the name in question is "CAFE ROUBAIX". It really does come down to the shop owner not being able to foot the bill to defend the name.
It misses all this stuff too:
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/?s=roubaix
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Originally Posted by sleepy
#9 and #12 make excellent points. #10 hit the nail on the head.

Specialized can go chew a bag of Richards.
+1

Just one more reason to hate Specialized!
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If someone starts a Kickstarter campaign to raise money for his legal defense I have $100 to donate.
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What a dick move. This is even worse than when they sued Volagi.

I agree that it is ridiculous that they were able to trademark Roubaix in the first place. Has anyone trademarked "New York" or "L.A."? Think of all the companies that use those to name things.
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq
This is how trademark laws work. You have to vigorously enforce them or lose them. Period. You can't pick and choose. If they want to keep the trademark they have no choice.
That is total BS in this case, Specialized is definitely picking the smallest, weakest kid on the playground to bully. The largest outdoor retailer in Canada is MEC, and one of MEC's signature in-house articles of clothing - Roubaix tights.

https://www.mec.ca/product/5021-691/m...x-tights-mens/

So, when it is an organization with enough clout to fight the legal battle, Spesh is nowhere to be seen, huh? But a small LBS run by a veteran just getting over PTSD which cannot afford lawyers, and Spesh is throwing down.

They are picking and choosing, and their choices make them disgusting bullies.
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