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@lsberrios1 You have a coach? Why? What category racer are you, crits and road? Does the coach help? How do people have time to do this stuff while having a life? I always think I'm doing my part by getting on the trainer for 20 to 30 minutes every other day as the winter is doing winter-y things and I work full time, but I'll probably get lapped in my first cat 5 race in a few weeks.
Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
S-Works is not a model but rather a tier in the lineup. It is like saying BMW 3 Series. You have the 328, then the 335, then the M3 on top. The same goes for the Specialized range. It goes from Sport (lower tier) to Comp / Expert (mid) and ends up in S Works (high end). You can have an S Works Venge, S Works Roubaix, and S Works Tarmac. In the car world it would be M3, M5, M6 etc. Most of the time the S Works range has higher Modulus carbon which saves around 150g and is stiffer. Not really worth it if you have a practical mindset but it's cool to have
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You should make an attempt to write with this level of clarity more often. I many times find your posts obtuse because you provide no context. You obviously are an accomplished bike rider and can write quite well. I hope you share your insights in this manner in the future.
Btw, I agree with you. It ain't about the bike...by and large once at a certain performance level of bike.
Btw, I agree with you. It ain't about the bike...by and large once at a certain performance level of bike.
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@lsberrios1 You have a coach? Why? What category racer are you, crits and road? Does the coach help? How do people have time to do this stuff while having a life? I always think I'm doing my part by getting on the trainer for 20 to 30 minutes every other day as the winter is doing winter-y things and I work full time, but I'll probably get lapped in my first cat 5 race in a few weeks.
Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
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While I do have a full time job and train about the same hours (when you include weightlifting 3-4hrs a week) I do have to say the part about having 2 kids definitely takes things to another level. Kudos to you for your hard work and good luck on your Races this year.
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No, like everybody else, I will evaluate your posts objectively without preconditions. You simply broke your traditional pattern and actually strung together a continuum of thought which for you is a rare exception. This departure exposes insight that isn't seen often in your typical 'one liner'.
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@lsberrios1 You have a coach? Why? What category racer are you, crits and road? Does the coach help? How do people have time to do this stuff while having a life? I always think I'm doing my part by getting on the trainer for 20 to 30 minutes every other day as the winter is doing winter-y things and I work full time, but I'll probably get lapped in my first cat 5 race in a few weeks.
Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
HTH.
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Ok, if you say so. But focus, we've got to find a way to unravel this Rubik's cube of a budding racer before he becomes one abandoned on a shelf with just the one color solved...
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If you think for example he is misguided in buying another bike or he is overly focused on the pursuit of becoming a better rider with other more important life challenges to face, then say so. Don't lurk in the shades and troll by innuendo. As I told you before, you have more work to do on yourself before you should judge others so harshly.
PS: One of the most astounding accomplishments of Luis is his amazing weight loss. He basically lost 25% of his body weight. Look at him now. He is ripped and obviously worked his ass off literally to achieve a level of fitness most never will. To be congratulated.
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Can someone please explain the difference between the S works and the Roubaix? Both look similar to me, but maybe that's because the top tube has a similar curved shape. I've never ridden a bike for comfort so I know there's a difference in that - just wondering if the Roubaix would be softer than my basic Trek bike.
Don't know what model Trek you have, so can't comment directly about that and have only ever ridden demo or friends' Roubaixs. But, the Roubaix generally gets reviewed and accepted as one of the bench mark frames for defining the best compromise of "laterally stiff, vertically compliant", while possessing excellent handling.
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We need more of these guys. They keep the shops stocking highend equipment and I, for one, really appreciate the trickle down:-)
+1 Very true.
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I started as one of the former. But, as we've come to learn more about Luis and see him for what he is, I've come to appreciate him for what he is: An enthusiastic, young, wealthy and competitive rider. Such riders are to be encourageded. Specially in the purchases of new top of the line equipment. Without these racers, Mrs. Fred wouldn't have an 18 month old Colnago that we picked up from the parents of a college team racer who determined that he needed something better, for 35% of it's original purchase price . And, when I needed a donor bike for the build of my proportional ghetto build, I woldn't have picked up a full Ultegra groupset alloy and carbon bike from the parents of a high school racer for pennies and been able to sell the frame, wheels, stem, post and saddle for a profit after burglaring the drivetrain.
We need more of these guys. They keep the shops stocking highend equipment and I, for one, really appreciate the trickle down:-)
+1 Very true.
We need more of these guys. They keep the shops stocking highend equipment and I, for one, really appreciate the trickle down:-)
+1 Very true.
No, you, I or anybody don't have to do this in the least. Rather embrace his pursue of getting better by sharing your personal experience.
If you think for example he is misguided in buying another bike or he is overly focused on the pursuit of becoming a better rider with other more important life challenges to face, then say so. Don't lurk in the shades and troll by innuendo. As I told you before, you have more work to do on yourself before you should judge others so harshly.
PS: One of the most astounding accomplishments of Luis is his amazing weight loss. He basically lost 25% of his body weight. Look at him now. He is ripped and obviously worked his ass off literally to achieve a level of fitness most never will. To be congratulated.
If you think for example he is misguided in buying another bike or he is overly focused on the pursuit of becoming a better rider with other more important life challenges to face, then say so. Don't lurk in the shades and troll by innuendo. As I told you before, you have more work to do on yourself before you should judge others so harshly.
PS: One of the most astounding accomplishments of Luis is his amazing weight loss. He basically lost 25% of his body weight. Look at him now. He is ripped and obviously worked his ass off literally to achieve a level of fitness most never will. To be congratulated.
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+1 on training at ungodly times. I am now in the habit of getting up 4-4:30 am. This gives me enough time to get 1-2 hours in on the rollers or trainer before my 6:30, when it is time to get the family ready for work/ school. Also, I have nothing else scheduled for that time of day, so it really helps me be consistent (no interruptions or last minute things to take care of instead of riding).
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I haven't commented on the TCR SL. But, as far as I'm concerned, it fits right in there with the Tarmac, Supersix, Madone, etc. as one of the good all around frames that will never limit you. I find it particularly entertaining and ironic that the young guy who convinced his parents the 105 equipped Colnago needed replacing, did so with a DA equipped TCR. It's obviously the value proposition for up and comers.
And as far as fit: Considering that your current fit looks reasonable, the TCR's 20mm lower HT in combination with an almost identical TT means you should have just about any reasonably desired position available to you.
Way to go on the various life changes. I still remember the post university morning that I woke up and realized I had a long list of **** that was past due. Didn't have a toke and got half of it done. Woke up the second morning, wondered if I could actually clear the list if I didn't smoke and low and behold did just that. Woke up on the third morning, wondered how far ahead I might progress if I didn't light up and never looked back. Those three days rank in the top ten of my life defining moments.
Keep up the good work.
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Thanks for that Campy, the bike has definitely changed my life. Not only on the weight loss issue but it has taken me out of depression, improved my self esteem and everything else around me has improved exponentially. I have substituted pills for exercise resulting in much more success. As weird as it sounds I've even become nicer to the ones around me and the community in general. I am all for cycling, not only cycling but exercising. Alcohol free since July 5th 2013 and smoke free since sept 22, 2013 Life is good.
I look forward to hearing about your new bike and a comparison between it and your Roubaix.
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I think this makes for a great end to a thread that became a little convoluted yet filled with great opinions and advice. I just ordered the remainder of the bike, wheels, tires etc. The build will be mind blowing (at least to me) and I have a feeling I will definitely enjoy it. This will be an addition to the stable rather than a replacement. I will fix the Roubaix and both bikes will compliment each other nicely.
Thanks to everybody for contributing, I am very happy with the end results. Wait for the soon to show up thread named: New baby in the house, ugly but fast!
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