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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanBlader View Post
    What you paid for your Outback and what it's worth are definitely two different things. I wouldn't give you more than the $3k you paid for your road bike for the Outback, which makes your setup readily achievable in comparison to a decent road bike. And the pro's have minimum weight limits on their bikes, we don't. In regards to your Poser comment, I never said I was a competitor, I was merely giving a product review, if you can't handle that, surely there are other places you can troll.



    Realistically I wouldn't be worried about one of those suction cups holding onto the bike, let alone 5 of them. I'd still endorse the SeaSucker, assuming you read the instructions and take care to pay attention to what you're doing.

    And for the failure mentioned in the Road Bike Review thread above, the poster conveniently posted screenshots of improper maintenance of the surface, and of the aging mount. He probably leaves without checking his tire pressure too. If you want something you can click onto your SUV in seconds then a hitch mount is probably for you. If you drive something a little more entertaining than a cargo vehicle, then this would be a good solution.
    Catdaddy if you remember you got offended from folks posting about the system you have. You threw the rocks so you may want to quit being a tool and just see what feedback is around here. I never dist your choice rather said I will stick to my Thule. You began acting the Jackwagon by stating how much your bike is and acting like a banty rooster with ruffled feathers. Hell, I could care less how much you paid. A fool and his money depart daily in the USA.

    I make wise purchases and don't need a Beemer or other over priced car to feel good about myself. If you do then fine go buy them. I would be surprised if your bike even costed $8k to be honest. Because if you don't compete then you just pissed good money away.

    As far as trolling you have no idea what that means. I have been here and post alot. I don't jab and run. Hey, go take some Prozac and have a shot of Jack and ride your $30k + bike in traffic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpath View Post
    No need to get snarky, just yanking your chain a bit. Kudos to innovators trying different things in different ways, and hopefully for the better. But Ocaam's Razor comes to mind, at least for me - paraphrase, the simplest solutions are usually the best ones. IOW, if it ain't broke....

    Not suggesting that traditional bike racks/carriers - roof or hitch types - are perfect, as quality vary greatly - but my Thule roof and hitch racks have served me well for over 20 years, carrying all different types of bike(s) without any worry or incident. The very fact that you're already concerned with weight potentially cracking the glass, even after only 40 miles of driving, suggests to me that perhaps the Seasuckers have a narrow bandwidth of users/buyers - say those with sportscars or 2+2 coupes, those without hitches or roof rack capability, or those who live in apartments without garage or storage space, etc etc.
    mpath your arguing to a fence post here friend. This guy I guess can't stand someone to comment on his post. If you do then your a troll according to him. I guess he will be riding the tour this summer!
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    Since this thread has been sufficiently trollified, I'll weigh in that my 2011 BMW 335 has everyone beat. Rack screws directly into threads in the roof of the car, no suction cups or aftermarket rack with their funky attachment systems. Takes 5 minutes to install/remove. More likely the best rack ever .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
    Since this thread has been sufficiently trollified, I'll weigh in that my 2011 BMW 335 has everyone beat. Rack screws directly into threads in the roof of the car, no suction cups or aftermarket rack with their funky attachment systems. Takes 5 minutes to install/remove. More likely the best rack ever .
    That's normal... Yakima's entire Control Tower system is based on utilizing those factory mounting points. My 2008 Mazda has the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhluhr View Post
    Is that Neil Tyson?

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    Yes it's a nice rack... I use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpath View Post
    The very fact that you're already concerned with weight potentially cracking the glass, even after only 40 miles of driving, suggests to me that perhaps the Seasuckers have a narrow bandwidth of users/buyers - say those with sportscars or 2+2 coupes, those without hitches or roof rack capability, or those who live in apartments without garage or storage space, etc etc.
    I was concerned about damaging the glass before zero miles of driving, not after 40. The reason why I was concerned was because reports have it that Subaru reduced the thickness of the glass on the car to reduce weight. That's why I split the front mount between the roof and the rear window rather than putting all three cups on the windshield. The more I thought about it though the more I was probably overreacting since I let some of the other enthusiasts yank on a single suction cup attached to the rear window, which would be far more stressful than the bike up there.

    Quote Originally Posted by robabeatle View Post
    Is that Neil Tyson?
    Yeah, I agree that's definitely @neiltyson

    Quote Originally Posted by R1lee View Post
    Yes it's a nice rack... I use it.
    And your car has more invested in it than everything I own. :-) Very nice. I thought about lining it up like that too, but there's a ridge on the roof of my car that would make that alignment less ideal. I think the flexibility is one of the best features about it. Thanks for the pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
    Since this thread has been sufficiently trollified, I'll weigh in that my 2011 BMW 335 has everyone beat. Rack screws directly into threads in the roof of the car, no suction cups or aftermarket rack with their funky attachment systems. Takes 5 minutes to install/remove. More likely the best rack ever .
    Well, I'm not trolling but since you mentioned your BMW, I will mention mine. I have an 2012 M (full Dinah also) with no roof rack but looked at the BMW one and refused to pay what they wanted. If I were to buy one it would be the Seasucker NOT the BMW.

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    meanwhile, in Japan....



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    Quote Originally Posted by robabeatle View Post
    Is that Neil Tyson?
    indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by drturf View Post
    Well, I'm not trolling but since you mentioned your BMW, I will mention mine. I have an 2012 M (full Dinah also) with no roof rack but looked at the BMW one and refused to pay what they wanted. If I were to buy one it would be the Seasucker NOT the BMW.
    You'd think a guy with a car like you describe would at least be able to SPELL it.

    http://www.dinancars.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhluhr View Post
    You'd think a guy with a car like you describe would at least be able to SPELL it.

    http://www.dinancars.com/

    You're so right. I've never been able to spell. I didn't even know what Dinan (let alone what makes a Dinan car (the 10 points and all) was until I got this car. I had a Ford Rapture truck and the fuel economy was killing me and I thought I'd like a small BMW (to save fuel costs) and saw this in the showroom. I didn't even know what an M was when I got it. I just liked the look and when I test drove it, the speed of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drturf View Post
    You're so right. I've never been able to spell. I didn't even know what Dinan (let alone what makes a Dinan car (the 10 points and all) was until I got this car. I had a Ford Rapture truck and the fuel economy was killing me and I thought I'd like a small BMW (to save fuel costs) and saw this in the showroom. I didn't even know what an M was when I got it. I just liked the look and when I test drove it, the speed of it.
    It's a terrific car, for sure.

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    Wow I don't put anything on my car finish,even my hand,and I drive a 1982 toyota supra.It is a 16k original survivor car though,but I'm particular about paint finishes including my bikes(OCD).
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    I have read every review I could find on on this bike rack. I don't doubt it will work as advertised. My concern is what happens when the rubber in the suction cup wears out and it isn't obvious to the owner. Is it likely that the cups could fail while my bike is the roof?

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    I am just surprised public transportation was mentioned by someone from Bay Area, and who probably works for Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanBlader View Post

    And your car has more invested in it than everything I own. :-) Very nice. I thought about lining it up like that too, but there's a ridge on the roof of my car that would make that alignment less ideal. I think the flexibility is one of the best features about it. Thanks for the pic.

    The reason I line it up like that is so that i can see the suction indicator. I know each suction cup is good for about 100lbs of force, so I'm always keeping an eye out on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
    Since this thread has been sufficiently trollified, I'll weigh in that my 2011 BMW 335 has everyone beat. Rack screws directly into threads in the roof of the car, no suction cups or aftermarket rack with their funky attachment systems. Takes 5 minutes to install/remove. More likely the best rack ever .
    New 911's have a similar system, but the mounting points are concealed by weather stripping when not in use. Little posts flip up and the rack bolts to the posts. Rock solid and the rack towers ride about a mm above the roof not touching the paint.

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    I don't really have much to add to this thread. I'm certainly not going to post a picture of my car because these Porsche's and Audi's put it to shame.

    That being said. I have an Outback in which I could fit a whole bike without disassembly. However, it was annoying to fold down the seats and move the taupe cover every time so I just got a hitch mount rack which fits my needs perfectly.

    I have an innate fear of suction cups. They barely can handle holding up my GPS in the car. I don't know if I'd want to trust my several hundred dollar bike to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    New 911's have a similar system, but the mounting points are concealed by weather stripping when not in use. Little posts flip up and the rack bolts to the posts. Rock solid and the rack towers ride about a mm above the roof not touching the paint.

    hence the reason why i will be getting a porsche in the future. The hidden rack mounts are just a great idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manarius View Post
    I don't really have much to add to this thread. I'm certainly not going to post a picture of my car because these Porsche's and Audi's put it to shame.

    That being said. I have an Outback in which I could fit a whole bike without disassembly. However, it was annoying to fold down the seats and move the taupe cover every time so I just got a hitch mount rack which fits my needs perfectly.

    I have an innate fear of suction cups. They barely can handle holding up my GPS in the car. I don't know if I'd want to trust my several hundred dollar bike to them.
    don't be ashamed of your ride, it's just a car and that's how i feel about my Audi.

    Don't compare consumer gadget suction cups vs. commercial. Don't get me wrong, i still have the fear of my bike flying off and damaging both, but they are different. But I've done over 100km with the bike on the roof going about 110km/h. I just pay attention to the suction indicator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1lee View Post
    hence the reason why i will be getting a porsche in the future. The hidden rack mounts are just a great idea.
    This is a standard feature on most new cars.

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    I stopped using the suction cup/windshield mount for my gps. It fails too often. Even when I take care to have clean glass. There are so many better ways to carry a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manarius View Post
    I don't really have much to add to this thread. I'm certainly not going to post a picture of my car because these Porsche's and Audi's put it to shame.

    That being said. I have an Outback in which I could fit a whole bike without disassembly. However, it was annoying to fold down the seats and move the taupe cover every time so I just got a hitch mount rack which fits my needs perfectly.

    I have an innate fear of suction cups. They barely can handle holding up my GPS in the car. I don't know if I'd want to trust my several hundred dollar bike to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanBlader View Post
    What you paid for your Outback and what it's worth are definitely two different things. I wouldn't give you more than the $3k you paid for your road bike for the Outback, which makes your setup readily achievable in comparison to a decent road bike. And the pro's have minimum weight limits on their bikes, we don't. In regards to your Poser comment, I never said I was a competitor, I was merely giving a product review, if you can't handle that, surely there are other places you can troll.
    Dude. Seriously. No credibility after that.
    #puckthefatriots

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanBlader View Post
    There's your problem. My bike is worth more than your whole setup combined. And I wouldn't put a trailer hitch on either of my cars unless it was going to be carrying racing slicks.

    What you should do with your SUV and Outback is skip the bike rack and put the bike INSIDE. FFS I had my bike in the back of my Mini Cooper when I had it.
    And when you and the girlfriend both have tri bikes you want to transport, with gear for a long weekend and a race, and have the bikes safely not bouncing on top of each other?
    #puckthefatriots

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