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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 01-06-14, 11:06 AM   #1
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best bike rack ever!





Totally held up for 40 miles of driving over driveways, freeways, and one faster than commuter speed right turn. I was more worried about breaking the glass than I was about losing the bike. The SeaSucker is an awesome investment, and one that I should also be able to use on other cars in the future, so slick!

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Explain to me why would I want to impede my view of the rear glass.
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That bike looks expensive...
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So does the trunk lid...
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I have seen these but yet to fully trust them! I will stick with my Thule hitch mount for now. I do encourage companies like them to continue innovating.
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No way.

Doesn't solve the height issue, can't see out the back glass, and I don't want anything weighing 18-20 lbs hanging on a window by suction.

I know it's not a true comparison but I saw too many Nerf darts fall off windows when I was a kid. Getting that picture out of people's heads is going to be impossible.
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Seasucker fail: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...-265841-2.html

I believe they hold plenty well enough, but the thing that concerns me is possible gradual loss of vacuum due to a scratch, hair or some thing else that gets under the edge of the suction cup.
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See post #36 I believe! Same as what Looigi posted above!

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...ml#post4532848
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What's the disclaimer for? And puhleeese....drive around for a couple of thousand clicks, then tell us it's "the best ever" and not after 40 miles. My bike ride yesterday was longer than that.
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What's the disclaimer for? And puhleeese....drive around for a couple of thousand clicks, then tell us it's "the best ever" and not after 40 miles. My bike ride yesterday was longer than that.
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What's the disclaimer for? And puhleeese....drive around for a couple of thousand clicks, then tell us it's "the best ever" and not after 40 miles. My bike ride yesterday was longer than that.
I had thought of something sufficiently snarky to compliment your comment, but I can be better than that, so thank you for the excellent example. The disclaimer was because I'm not sure I'd want to try it with a 40lb cruiser, I'd be worried about cracking the glass.

I'm not going to put my bike on the back of my car for a thousand kilometers, I'd rather fly for that. This was a case where I needed to leave the car, and I'd rather ride home than take public transit. And it means I don't need to modify or add weight to either of my cars, and I have one rack for both. I will however reply next time someone posts about the SeaSucker and comment on it's longevity. I do expect the rubber suction cups and internal seals to deteriorate over time, but I still expect to have paid less for my rack than a Thule rack that's limited to one car.
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I had thought of something sufficiently snarky to compliment your comment, but I can be better than that, so thank you for the excellent example. The disclaimer was because I'm not sure I'd want to try it with a 40lb cruiser, I'd be worried about cracking the glass.

I'm not going to put my bike on the back of my car for a thousand kilometers, I'd rather fly for that. This was a case where I needed to leave the car, and I'd rather ride home than take public transit. And it means I don't need to modify or add weight to either of my cars, and I have one rack for both. I will however reply next time someone posts about the SeaSucker and comment on it's longevity. I do expect the rubber suction cups and internal seals to deteriorate over time, but I still expect to have paid less for my rack than a Thule rack that's limited to one car.
Most are not limited anymore provided if you have more than one vehicle with a hitch like most do now days with SUV's and even cars. The Thule I have and most come now with the 2" adapter to fit both it and the 1.25" as well like what is on my wives Subaru Outback. I go from one vehicle to the other.

So this argument is not valid in some if not most instances now days. Suction cups give.........eventually, don't know when and where but I sure don't want a $3k road bike or more tumbling down the highway as I look in my rear view because I think I would puke then on my dash!
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No way.

Doesn't solve the height issue, can't see out the back glass, and I don't want anything weighing 18-20 lbs hanging on a window by suction.

I know it's not a true comparison but I saw too many Nerf darts fall off windows when I was a kid. Getting that picture out of people's heads is going to be impossible.

commercial grade glass suction cups, also known as vacu-cups are extremely powerful. like an 8" one is good for around 100 lbs. smaller ones average 50-70lbs capacity each in vertical shear.
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I don't think anyone here is faulting you for your purchase because I am sure you did the research and bought what best suited your need. It is just anyone that has dealt with suction cups knows like looigi pointed out is the unknown of when you attached or activated the suction that you cannot see that in a few or maybe hundred miles gives and then you have a real issue not only to your vehicle but if that bad boy goes bouncing and into another vehicle God forbid I hope they don't get killed because I would hate to have that on my conscience.

This can also happen with a hitch mount if the weld joint gives. That is why I inspect mine regularly but I have yet to see a weld joint ever come close to failure on a bike rack before one replaced it.
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commercial grade glass suction cups, also known as vacu-cups are extremely powerful. like an 8" one is good for around 100 lbs. smaller ones average 50-70lbs capacity each in vertical shear.
See link above and explain that to the OP!
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I'm more interested in hearing about the carbon fiber pieces on the BRZ. I took one for a test drive and the car was too harsh for me but the back end swings out easily, and is so much fun.
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Subaru Outback.
There's your problem. My bike is worth more than your whole setup combined. And I wouldn't put a trailer hitch on either of my cars unless it was going to be carrying racing slicks.

What you should do with your SUV and Outback is skip the bike rack and put the bike INSIDE. FFS I had my bike in the back of my Mini Cooper when I had it.

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I'm more interested in hearing about the carbon fiber pieces on the BRZ. I took one for a test drive and the car was too harsh for me but the back end swings out easily, and is so much fun.
http://ft86speedfactory.com/exterior-36/trunks-148/

It's a ton of fun, traded in the Mini for it, definitely worth it. I don't think of it as too harsh, but comparing it to my '85 MR2 on race springs it's a cadillac.

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There's your problem. My bike is worth more than your whole setup combined. And I wouldn't put a trailer hitch on either of my cars unless it was going to be carrying racing slicks.

What you should do with your SUV and Outback is skip the bike rack and put the bike INSIDE. FFS I had my bike in the back of my Mini Cooper when I had it.



http://ft86speedfactory.com/exterior-36/trunks-148/

It's a ton of fun, traded in the Mini for it, definitely worth it. I don't think of it as too harsh, but comparing it to my '85 MR2 on race springs it's a cadillac.
Woooo we have a POSER here today folks! I knew maybe your true colors would come out. I guess my ability to make more sound purchases over you can be tad hard to live with but if you have a $30k bike I would love to be your LBS and you would definitely be first at my register! The pro's don't even have $30k bikes friend.
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See link above and explain that to the OP!

one should note that those commercial cups are 1) larger and 2) have strict requirements for surface cleanliness and imperfections to ensure proper suction.

normally only used on glass or high polished stone or gloss finish millwork/metal panels.

I've used them routinely to move/align glass panels and doors in commercial construction.
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I'm not going to put my bike on the back of my car for a thousand kilometers, I'd rather fly for that.
I don't think he meant for you to drive the thousand kilometers in one go.
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The pro's don't even have $30k bikes friend.
What you paid for your Outback and what it's worth are definitely two different things. I wouldn't give you more than the $3k you paid for your road bike for the Outback, which makes your setup readily achievable in comparison to a decent road bike. And the pro's have minimum weight limits on their bikes, we don't. In regards to your Poser comment, I never said I was a competitor, I was merely giving a product review, if you can't handle that, surely there are other places you can troll.

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one should note that those commercial cups are 1) larger and 2) have strict requirements for surface cleanliness and imperfections to ensure proper suction.

normally only used on glass or high polished stone or gloss finish millwork/metal panels.
Realistically I wouldn't be worried about one of those suction cups holding onto the bike, let alone 5 of them. I'd still endorse the SeaSucker, assuming you read the instructions and take care to pay attention to what you're doing.

And for the failure mentioned in the Road Bike Review thread above, the poster conveniently posted screenshots of improper maintenance of the surface, and of the aging mount. He probably leaves without checking his tire pressure too. If you want something you can click onto your SUV in seconds then a hitch mount is probably for you. If you drive something a little more entertaining than a cargo vehicle, then this would be a good solution.
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commercial grade glass suction cups, also known as vacu-cups are extremely powerful. like an 8" one is good for around 100 lbs. smaller ones average 50-70lbs capacity each in vertical shear.
I understand your intent, but that would be under perfect conditions such as a totally flat, clean, dry, smooth surface staying the same temperature.

Assuming those conditions were met and you did have something hit your bike, I'd rather trash a bike rack than break out a window and pull a huge dent up out of my trunk lid and ruin the car's paint. This is one of those things that sounds like a cool idea but isn't practical. Don't get me wrong...I'm all for buying whatever trips your trigger...but in my opinion this is a solution for a non-existent problem.
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I had thought of something sufficiently snarky to compliment your comment, but I can be better than that, so thank you for the excellent example. The disclaimer was because I'm not sure I'd want to try it with a 40lb cruiser, I'd be worried about cracking the glass.

I'm not going to put my bike on the back of my car for a thousand kilometers, I'd rather fly for that. This was a case where I needed to leave the car, and I'd rather ride home than take public transit. And it means I don't need to modify or add weight to either of my cars, and I have one rack for both. I will however reply next time someone posts about the SeaSucker and comment on it's longevity. I do expect the rubber suction cups and internal seals to deteriorate over time, but I still expect to have paid less for my rack than a Thule rack that's limited to one car.
No need to get snarky, just yanking your chain a bit. Kudos to innovators trying different things in different ways, and hopefully for the better. But Ocaam's Razor comes to mind, at least for me - paraphrase, the simplest solutions are usually the best ones. IOW, if it ain't broke....

Not suggesting that traditional bike racks/carriers - roof or hitch types - are perfect, as quality vary greatly - but my Thule roof and hitch racks have served me well for over 20 years, carrying all different types of bike(s) without any worry or incident. The very fact that you're already concerned with weight potentially cracking the glass, even after only 40 miles of driving, suggests to me that perhaps the Seasuckers have a narrow bandwidth of users/buyers - say those with sportscars or 2+2 coupes, those without hitches or roof rack capability, or those who live in apartments without garage or storage space, etc etc.
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