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    Cheap wheelsets with a loud rear hub

    I think I remember reading somewhere that Fulcrums were loud. Are there any other cheap (even OEM) wheelsets that are loud that I can keep an eye out for on CL and eBay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoota View Post
    I think I remember reading somewhere that Fulcrums were loud. Are there any other cheap (even OEM) wheelsets that are loud that I can keep an eye out for on CL and eBay?
    No hub will be as silent as a Shimano hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalowings View Post
    No hub will be as silent as a Shimano hub.
    Sorry, I should have specified that I want the rear to be LOUD.
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    I had Campagnolo Kamsin's that were unbelievably loud, drove riding partners crazy. I think they are made by Fulcrum.

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    I thought my stock Fulcrums were loud (they kind of are) until I heard my ROL's or a set of Zipps...both of them are seriously loud.

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    Not HED or Easton. They are relatively quiet ime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
    +1

    Quote Originally Posted by triathloner View Post
    I had Campagnolo Kamsin's that were unbelievably loud, drove riding partners crazy. I think they are made by Fulcrum.
    Strike that....reverse it. Fulcrum is part of Campy. It was the only way they could get people using Shimano drivetrains (read as "the vast majority of the market") to buy wheels from them. They had to call them something other than Campy.

    OP...honestly as a wheelbuilder I hate when I get asked about the sound level of hubs. It's the most un-cycling related question in the world. You can never tell where a customer is coming from when they ask either. half want them to be silent while the other half want them to be loud. Both halves are nuts IMHO.

    You want a loud freehub? Take your current freehub off. Clean it and the drive gear. Then clean it again with rubbing alcohol and a spray bottle and compressed air. Then use a lightweight oil. Couple of drops. Viola. Congrats on having a loud hub that will not perform as well over the long haul. But at least it will sound cool. Open it often to clean and re oil as oil won't protect the wear on the pawls as well as the grease did.

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    Loud hubs save lives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
    +1


    Strike that....reverse it. Fulcrum is part of Campy. It was the only way they could get people using Shimano drivetrains (read as "the vast majority of the market") to buy wheels from them. They had to call them something other than Campy.

    OP...honestly as a wheelbuilder I hate when I get asked about the sound level of hubs. It's the most un-cycling related question in the world. You can never tell where a customer is coming from when they ask either. half want them to be silent while the other half want them to be loud. Both halves are nuts IMHO.

    You want a loud freehub? Take your current freehub off. Clean it and the drive gear. Then clean it again with rubbing alcohol and a spray bottle and compressed air. Then use a lightweight oil. Couple of drops. Viola. Congrats on having a loud hub that will not perform as well over the long haul. But at least it will sound cool. Open it often to clean and re oil as oil won't protect the wear on the pawls as well as the grease did.
    Good to know, I might actually do that.

    But, how is the sound of a hub not cycling related? It's on a bike, I like it to be loud, and it makes me enjoy riding my bike more. How is that not cycling related?
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    Yes, there are differences in the noise made by hubs, but my observation is that most of the difference is in the rims. Certain deep, CF rims vastly amplify the noise made by even quiet hubs. As I have posted before, a friend and I have ridden the exact same wheels side-by-side as far as hubs, spokes, spoke count, etc. were concerned, the only exception being he was on shallow aluminum rims and I was on 50 mm CF rims. Like night and day. Hubs that we could almost not hear at all on his wheels sounded on mine like playing cards were in my spokes. This is not the only factor, but I believe it is the biggest factor in noisy wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoota View Post
    Good to know, I might actually do that.

    But, how is the sound of a hub not cycling related? It's on a bike, I like it to be loud, and it makes me enjoy riding my bike more. How is that not cycling related?
    Somebody asked me once when I made a comment about my Fulcrums being louder than the Shimano wheels I used to ride. "Why do you care? Spend a ton of time coasting? HTFU and ride more often!"

    LOL...I never thought of it that way. I told him "fair enough" and dropped the issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
    Yes, there are differences in the noise made by hubs, but my observation is that most of the difference is in the rims. Certain deep, CF rims vastly amplify the noise made by even quiet hubs. As I have posted before, a friend and I have ridden the exact same wheels side-by-side as far as hubs, spokes, spoke count, etc. were concerned, the only exception being he was on shallow aluminum rims and I was on 50 mm CF rims. Like night and day. Hubs that we could almost not hear at all on his wheels sounded on mine like playing cards were in my spokes. This is not the only factor, but I believe it is the biggest factor in noisy wheels.
    I actually hadn't heard that before, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokehouse View Post
    Somebody asked me once when I made a comment about my Fulcrums being louder than the Shimano wheels I used to ride. "Why do you care? Spend a ton of time coasting? HTFU and ride more often!"

    LOL...I never thought of it that way. I told him "fair enough" and dropped the issue...
    It's funny I get it but hardly the point
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    I want a hub that makes a bicycle bell noise when coasting. Possible?

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    I don't know your definition of "cheap" but Mavic Aksiums have really loud freehubs. I'm talking BMX freewheel loud. I've picked up three sets over the years on CL for $100-125 depending on condition. You can score new sets for $200 during end of year sales.

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    If you want some take-off Fulcrum 7's, shoot me a PM.
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    Fulcrum racing 7s are cheaper wheels...kind of heavy but they are tough. The hubs are pretty loud...have a distinct "buzzing" sound to them. At least the older ones did...my "racing 6" OEM are pretty loud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermalattorney View Post
    I don't know your definition of "cheap" but Mavic Aksiums have really loud freehubs. I'm talking BMX freewheel loud. I've picked up three sets over the years on CL for $100-125 depending on condition. You can score new sets for $200 during end of year sales.
    I didn't know Aksiums were loud. I 've heard a set of them and I didn't they were loud. But, "loud" is subjective.

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    If you want some take-off Fulcrum 7's, shoot me a PM.
    Will do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokehouse View Post
    Fulcrum racing 7s are cheaper wheels...kind of heavy but they are tough. The hubs are pretty loud...have a distinct "buzzing" sound to them. At least the older ones did...my "racing 6" OEM are pretty loud...
    I saw a couple posts saying the Racing 6 was pretty quiet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
    Loud hubs save lives!



    But seriously, when I first got my PW hubs, the rear sounded like an angry one-pound bumblebee when coasting.

    Then when it was ten years old, something went haywire internally, so I sent it in to PW for the flat-rate overhaul. It came back with a new freehub body and was quiet; I mean dead silent quiet! I was so curious that I called PW to learn what had changed. Their response: No changes, we just shot it full of grease after the overhaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoota View Post
    I didn't know Aksiums were loud. I 've heard a set of them and I didn't they were loud. But, "loud" is subjective.



    Will do.



    I saw a couple posts saying the Racing 6 was pretty quiet..
    Not compared to the Shimano RS-10 I was riding the season before that. They're not screamers but I definitely wouldn't describe the Racing 6 as quiet though...

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    Novatec R482SB hubs, which are standard on most any Chinese carbon / Ebay special, are pretty loud. Nice mechanical sound. I have a set, the hubs are light, very durable and well made for the money.

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    Hub noise?

    Did you spin out?

    Try 54x11 or 55x11

    I used a grinder and filed off a couple teeth from my 11 and now I'm riding 53x9... hella tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triathloner View Post
    I had Campagnolo Kamsin's that were unbelievably loud, drove riding partners crazy. I think they are made by Fulcrum.
    It's the other way around.
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    My Novatecs have all been really loud.
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