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Old 01-06-14, 02:50 PM   #1
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For Christmas My Mother Purchased for Me The Pearl Izumi’s Road Bicycle Shoes Called

For Christmas My Mother Purchased for Me The Pearl Izumi’s Road Bicycle Shoes Called 'Windsource' And I have A Fit And Comfortability Issue. I would rather not have to ask, my mother, let alone require her involvement, to exchange another bicycle gift, from Christmas; bicycle pants were too tight. I do not in any way want to seem ungrateful. I do not drive and do not have any faith in the 10-miles away bicycle shop, thus I bring this E-Mail to you.

When I first thought about the gift, I was thinking that the shoes attachment petal system was supposed to be in the box, but was not. The shoe’s manual made such a big deal about it. Later, I decided I need to try it out first, before making such an assumption.
I read and studied their Cleat installation instructions, Road & Care & Maintenance sections of The Shoe Manuel, after experiencing the following problems, the first few times I used the shoes. The shoes do not seem to fit my standard bicycle petals, specifically the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, and causes my feet to slip off the petals. There was no ability to install The Cleat parts because they were never with my ‘The Windsource' shoes. Since, I have no the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, attached to petals, I am not complaining about never having any Cleats parts with ‘The Windsource’ shoes. I do not know if my standardized bicycle petals, no parts to keep the bicycle shoes attached to the petals, fit into “Pearl Izumi shoes have been tested with several of the most popular clipless pedal systems." I think not, because I believe my standardized bicycle petals, no parts to keep the bicycle shoes attached to the petals, do not fit into the definition of a clipless petal system, even with The Cleat parts removed.

Will 'The Windsource' bicycle shoes ever work (comfortable and stay on the petals) with my standardized bicycle petals, no parts to keep the bicycle shoes attached to the petals?? There was no ability to install The Cleat parts because they were never with my ‘The Windsource' shoes. Since, I have no the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, attached to petals, I am not complaining about never having any Cleats parts with ‘The Windsource’ shoes. I like having the ability in the future to get the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, attached to petals and ‘The Windsource’s Cleat Parts, when my dream of moving and living in mountain areas of State of Washington and Denmark or similar European Country become reality.
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Old 01-06-14, 02:59 PM   #2
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Kind of an incomplete gift (unfortunately).

Cleats come with clipless pedals, not packaged with the shoes.

I can't think of a reason to wear cycling shoes with stock/flat pedals.
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The issue isn't the color.
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For Christmas My Mother Purchased for Me The Pearl Izumi’s Road Bicycle Shoes Called 'Windsource' And I have A Fit And Comfortability Issue. I would rather not have to ask, my mother, let alone require her involvement, to exchange another bicycle gift, from Christmas; bicycle pants were too tight. I do not in any way want to seem ungrateful. I do not drive and do not have any faith in the 10-miles away bicycle shop, thus I bring this E-Mail to you.

When I first thought about the gift, I was thinking that the shoes attachment petal system was supposed to be in the box, but was not. The shoe’s manual made such a big deal about it. Later, I decided I need to try it out first, before making such an assumption.
I read and studied their Cleat installation instructions, Road & Care & Maintenance sections of The Shoe Manuel, after experiencing the following problems, the first few times I used the shoes. The shoes do not seem to fit my standard bicycle petals, specifically the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, and causes my feet to slip off the petals. There was no ability to install The Cleat parts because they were never with my ‘The Windsource' shoes. Since, I have no the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, attached to petals, I am not complaining about never having any Cleats parts with ‘The Windsource’ shoes. I do not know if my standardized bicycle petals, no parts to keep the bicycle shoes attached to the petals, fit into “Pearl Izumi shoes have been tested with several of the most popular clipless pedal systems." I think not, because I believe my standardized bicycle petals, no parts to keep the bicycle shoes attached to the petals, do not fit into the definition of a clipless petal system, even with The Cleat parts removed.

Will 'The Windsource' bicycle shoes ever work (comfortable and stay on the petals) with my standardized bicycle petals, no parts to keep the bicycle shoes attached to the petals?? There was no ability to install The Cleat parts because they were never with my ‘The Windsource' shoes. Since, I have no the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, attached to petals, I am not complaining about never having any Cleats parts with ‘The Windsource’ shoes. I like having the ability in the future to get the shoes' attachment area for The Cleat parts, attached to petals and ‘The Windsource’s Cleat Parts, when my dream of moving and living in mountain areas of State of Washington and Denmark or similar European Country become reality.
So, you need 3 things:
1. The shoe, which you have. Oddly, Pearl Izumi doesn't list "The Windsource" as one of their road shoes. Are you sure?
2. The cleat, also known as "the parts to keep the bicycle shoes attache to the petals [sic]", which you don't have. This is sold separately, and they come in a variety of types.
3. The pedal made specifically for the type of cleat you choose to use. Your pedals will not work, because they are likely "platform pedals" which are not made to be used with cleats and shoes.

Combined, all three of the items above are known as "clipless pedals", even though the cleats actually click into the pedals.

If you don't want to offend your mom, just let her know that the shoes require special pedals and cleats, which you don't have, and then you can return them guilt-free. It would be better, though, if you could get the cleat and pedals needed to fit your shoes, because clipless pedals are absolutely better than normal pedals.

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I wouldn't know.
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It's worth a read. There are nuggets of goodness.
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I sell this stuff and have never heard of a Pearl shoe called, Windsource.

More info please.

Me thinks I smell a rat...
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So, you need 3 things:
1. The shoe, which you have. Oddly, Pearl Izumi doesn't list "The Windsource" as one of their road shoes. Are you sure?
2. The cleat, also known as "the parts to keep the bicycle shoes attache to the petals [sic]", which you don't have. This is sold separately, and they come in a variety of types.
3. The pedal made specifically for the type of cleat you choose to use. Your pedals will not work, because they are likely "platform pedals" which are not made to be used with cleats and shoes.

Combined, all three of the items above are known as "clipless pedals", even though the cleats actually click into the pedals.

If you don't want to offend your mom, just let her know that the shoes require special pedals and cleats, which you don't have, and then you can return them guilt-free. It would be better, though, if you could get the cleat and pedals needed to fit your shoes, because clipless pedals are absolutely better than normal pedals.
And dtrain,

They are the type of petals that dtrain is thinking of

Now, my mother is like, do not get so zero end, focused on it, not that big of a deal. She is always like this when I try to find answers for problems. No matter how much I talk to her about it being a Christmas gift.
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GWS,

You need special pedals, depending on what type of shoes you have.

Like these:
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...=c&cagpspn=pla

Or these:
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400265__400265

Maybe you could post up a picture of your shoes and their soles?
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I lol'd at "my mother purchased for me the pearl izumi's road bicycle shoes called" being the title of this thread.
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tl;dr version.

shoes for christmas don't have cleats. i need new pedals and cleats. i don't know which of either product to buy. help.
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I thought this was some kind of Nigerian scam when I first started reading it.
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I'm still not sure it isn't.
In any case, I'm grabbing another bucket of popcorn.
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i just think it's funny that he won't post where he's from. if he's running something like TOR through proxies and with a bunch of anti track software just to stay anon he'd almost never have a site load. the second he opens his browser any IP will know where he is. that whole secrecy ship has sailed.....
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Three people actually made an attempt to answer this post's question, which while novice-level is by no means invalid. Everybody else made fun of the OP, mostly for the phrasing of a post that's probably not written in their first language. Really, guys?
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OP, are your shoes Pearl Izumi's? PI makes, or made, a Windsource clothing line, but not shoes, as far as i can tell.

please post a photo, or two, of your shoes.
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Three people actually made an attempt to answer this post's question, which while novice-level is by no means invalid. Everybody else made fun of the OP, mostly for the phrasing of a post that's probably not written in their first language. Really, guys?
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Three people actually made an attempt to answer this post's question, which while novice-level is by no means invalid. Everybody else made fun of the OP, mostly for the phrasing of a post that's probably not written in their first language. Really, guys?
OP could at least meet us halfway by not posting with a red font. If you want a question answered, you should at least make an effort to make it understandable.
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OP could at least meet us halfway by not posting with a red font. If you want a question answered, you should at least make an effort to make it understandable.
This.

There was another poster a few months ago who only used bold, red font. I commented about how hard it was to read and he got offended, but continued to post in said font. Others said the same, yet he continued.

I think he left shortly thereafter.

In other words, just use the default black font, OP.
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This.

There was another poster a few months ago who only used bold, red font. I commented about how hard it was to read and he got offended, but continued to post in said font. Others said the same, yet he continued.

I think he left shortly thereafter.

In other words, just use the default black font, OP.
Just looked up that thread...same OP.
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tl;dr version.

shoes for christmas don't have cleats. i need new pedals and cleats. i don't know which of either product to buy. help.
I think you mean he needs new PETALS.
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