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    Rema Tip Top Patch Kits

    Question for you tube patching gurus. The Rema patch kits (excellent patch kits BTW) come with a 1"x1/8" OD piece of rubber tubing. What is the tubing for?
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    Boot?
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    It looks like a thin piece of macaroni. Not seeing how it could be used as a boot, but thanks for playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    It looks like a thin piece of macaroni. Not seeing how it could be used as a boot, but thanks for playing.
    Ok maybe not. Some kits come with a boot.
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    Sure, and that was a reasonable guess. I found a pic of the contents, including the tubing:



    The instructions make no metion of the tubing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    Question for you tube patching gurus. The Rema patch kits (excellent patch kits BTW) come with a 1"x1/8" OD piece of rubber tubing. What is the tubing for?

    It's a "Glue-Smearer" or "Leimauftragmaschine", which no one in history has ever used.

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    Interesting. Even the Rema website does not mention it...cut/paste from website:

    Each kit includes the following:
    • 6 round tube patches
    • 1 oval tube patch
    • 1 emery paper
    • 1 tube of CFC-free cement
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    Use the tubing to spread the glue. Your fingers have oils that can effect the bond with the patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
    It's a "Glue-Smearer" or "Leimauftragmaschine", which no one in history has ever used.
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
    Use the tubing to spread the glue. Your fingers have oils that can effect the bond with the patch.
    Spread the glue as you apply it from the tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
    It's a "Glue-Smearer" or "Leimauftragmaschine", which no one in history has ever used.

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    Ok, I get it. I've patched many tubes without using it producing excellent results, and I don't plan to start now. Mystery solved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    Ok, I get it. I've patched many tubes without using it producing excellent results, and I don't plan to start now. Mystery solved!
    I have an extensive collection of Rema Leimauftragmaschines from every era of production.
    They only exist in two conditions: "NOS/Perfect/Un-used" or "Lost-on-Roadside/Who-cares".

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    Quote Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
    Spread the glue as you apply it from the tube.
    the OP asked what it's for, and I answered the question. I never said it's necessarily the only way to do it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
    the OP asked what it's for, and I answered the question. I never said it's necessarily the only way to do it properly.
    Thank you for your contribution to the collective's knowlege base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datlas View Post
    Thank you for your contribution to the collective's knowlege base.
    I'm glad I could help. It was clear that you didn't have the answer.

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    Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
    Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
    Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner. Sheldon knew all along: See Woods Valve

    I guess they're common in Germany?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
    Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
    Finally a correct answer. The wheels on my 'Swedish Canoe Cart' that I bought from LL Bean came with a Wood's (aka Dunlop) valve that had one of those little rubber tubes inside. The valve could be inflated with a regular Presta pump but eventually one of them failed due to that rubber piece wearing out. None of my patch kits had the little tube anymore, but Sheldon Brown was nice enough to send me a piece of the rubber tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
    the OP asked what it's for, and I answered the question. I never said it's necessarily the only way to do it properly.
    You recommended it. If that's not what you meant, then you failed to use the right words.

    Equivalently, I never said you couldn't use the rubber tube or that what I recommended (intentionally) was "necessarily the only way to do it". I doubt that many people use the rubber tube for that anyway.

    Bizarre.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
    Use the tubing to spread the glue. Your fingers have oils that can effect the bond with the patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner. Sheldon knew all along: See Woods Valve

    I guess they're common in Germany?
    Sheldon Brown indicates that there are newer versions that don't use the tube.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheldon
    Older versions work with rubber tubing and spit. If they don't hold air, you can unscrew the knurled ring that holds the valve core (the "Presta-sized" part) in place. You should see a short length of rubber tubing covering the inner part of the core. If the rubber tubing has deteriorated,, the valve won't work. Some patch kits include short lengths of replacement rubber tubing for this purpose. When installing new tubing, lubricate the valve core with spit before slipping the tubing in place.
    Newer versions use a modern spring-loaded valve mechanism.
    Google seems to indicate that people still run across the values.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=wood...m=122&ie=UTF-8

    This is a discussion about them.

    http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-3636.html

    And it's been asked before.

    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...it-194668.html
    Last edited by njkayaker; 01-22-14 at 05:02 PM.

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    OP, thanks for asking about that bit of tubing. I've been carrying them around for years, for no reason at all, and wondering...
    Last edited by GuitarBob; 01-22-14 at 09:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
    Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
    No. 1 (or a Woods valve), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_stem. But the other answers are more amusing.

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    I don't suppose my method of throwing away punctured tubes rather than patching them is going to be very well accepted on this thread. Sigh! Yes, I know about the thorns some folks suffer with.

    BTW only a small fraction of presta tubes made in Asia that I see in the USA have removable (or rebuildable) cores, much less rubber tubes inside them. Just sayin' I don't think as time goes on that little do-dad is going to be of much relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    Question for you tube patching gurus. The Rema patch kits (excellent patch kits BTW) come with a 1"x1/8" OD piece of rubber tubing. What is the tubing for?
    Replacement rubber tube for Dunlop valves:
    Like this:
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/46...showimage.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
    I don't suppose my method of throwing away punctured tubes rather than patching them is going to be very well accepted on this thread. Sigh!
    To be honest, I doubt anyone besides you cares what you do with your tubes... Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
    To be honest, I doubt anyone besides you cares what you do with your tubes... Just sayin'.
    Surely you're right, but it would be so much nicer if you would just be dishonest and tell me how useful my comment was. Just sayin'.

    Of course my comment wasn't really about what I do with my tubes, but rather about what other folks also could choose to do with theirs. Even the smallest Rema patch is bigger in diameter than a flattened, small cross section, light weight 700c tube. So the edges of the patch extend off the edges of the tube when you press them flat together. I found the only possible way to make it work was to roll the patch and tube together between my fingers. I know most folks have success patching such tubes, but I found it very hard to get the edges to adhere properly. And if the edges don't adhere right, the whole patch job is subject to failure. Sure I patched tubes for years and years. I finally just decided that for about $6 replacement cost four or five times a year at most, it wasn't worth it to try to reuse the old punctured tube. Heresy, I know, but very effective.

    Robert

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