Anyone keep their bike locked up INSIDE their home?
02-11-14, 02:36 AM
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Reading those articles, stealing bikes is a lot of work! Having to transport them to another city to sell or spending a lot of time on Ebay and shipping them etc.
Also these bike thefts seem to be at public spaces. Not in your home. The articles didn't mention bike thieves breaking into homes to steal bikes.
Also these bike thefts seem to be at public spaces. Not in your home. The articles didn't mention bike thieves breaking into homes to steal bikes.
the break in that happened while he was out of town and the bikes disappeared.
Poor guy was still out of town when a neighbor discovered it and called him.
If you count garages as breaking into your home, it really does happen all the time here.
I kinda wish I were wrong, or making it up, but I'm well aware of the problem and the extent of it.
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For security you should strive for defense-in-depth. That means providing multiple methods of security. Keeping the house or garage locked, an alarm, neighbors looking out for each other, a dog, locking-up your bikes, etc. If you're going to be away for a few days or weeks, don't advertise it. A burglar is likely to be local and would love information like that.
You want to discourage a thief from breaking-in and increasing the time it takes to steal valuables if he actually does. Thieves want to get in and out quick to reduce the potential for getting caught or attacked by a homeowner. Usually they're looking for easily transportable valuables like money and jewelry and head right for the bedroom looking for it.
I keep my bikes in the house locked to each other and a cast iron radiator with 2 separate cable locks, as well as U locks. My local errand runner is a beat-up looking frankenbike and usually stays in the garage locked to an aluminum ladder.
I had a burglary about 15 years ago. The guy pried the door frame with a crowbar to get in. He was actually still inside the house when I came home and jumped out a back window as I was coming in the door with my gun out when I saw the crowbar gouge on the door. Lost a few watches, a jar of spare change and an ancient cassette tape walkman that I didn't even use anymore. He was a local druggie, got nabbed shoplifting 2 weeks later, confessed to breaking into multiple houses in the area and got sent to prison for a few years.
No problems since, but now I leave a few decoy enticements that would be seen immediately by anyone entering the house - a dead laptop inside an old laptop bag, a 35mm point-and-shoot camera and an old palm pilot. They're all useless garbage to me, but might look good to some mutt looking for a few quick goodies without really scrutinizing them in his haste.
You want to discourage a thief from breaking-in and increasing the time it takes to steal valuables if he actually does. Thieves want to get in and out quick to reduce the potential for getting caught or attacked by a homeowner. Usually they're looking for easily transportable valuables like money and jewelry and head right for the bedroom looking for it.
I keep my bikes in the house locked to each other and a cast iron radiator with 2 separate cable locks, as well as U locks. My local errand runner is a beat-up looking frankenbike and usually stays in the garage locked to an aluminum ladder.
I had a burglary about 15 years ago. The guy pried the door frame with a crowbar to get in. He was actually still inside the house when I came home and jumped out a back window as I was coming in the door with my gun out when I saw the crowbar gouge on the door. Lost a few watches, a jar of spare change and an ancient cassette tape walkman that I didn't even use anymore. He was a local druggie, got nabbed shoplifting 2 weeks later, confessed to breaking into multiple houses in the area and got sent to prison for a few years.
No problems since, but now I leave a few decoy enticements that would be seen immediately by anyone entering the house - a dead laptop inside an old laptop bag, a 35mm point-and-shoot camera and an old palm pilot. They're all useless garbage to me, but might look good to some mutt looking for a few quick goodies without really scrutinizing them in his haste.
02-11-14, 08:06 AM
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I had my Mountain bike along with all of my power tools were stolen out of my garage last year. Luckily they did not get my Roubiax that was in the house. My bike was a 4 month old Specialized Carve Comp. All my insurance wanted was a pic or two to prove that I owned the bike. I still had the receipt so there were no questions asked. I was issued a check for replacement value, not depreciated value. I spoke with my agent right after the robbery. I asked about a separate rider for my bikes and he stated that it was not really necessary. However, I do have a separate rider for all of my firearms and jewelry.
Now all of our bikes, 6 of them, live somewhere inside the house.
Now all of our bikes, 6 of them, live somewhere inside the house.
02-11-14, 10:29 AM
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Ha! Locks are for honest people. You gonna spend more $ upgrading all your windows to shatter free plexi? This can't be done. It's for peace of mind, but one swift kick and most doors will go down, one tap with anything and windows will shatter, never mind the window locks. If a thief is determined, he will get into your house. Maybe a good house alarm might help, but you can't keep people out with locks. Trust me, I'm in property management and have seen just about every kind of break in thru the years.
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At home, inside of car, and even while in roof rack...ALWAYS LOCKED UP.
02-11-14, 11:55 AM
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I recently received an e-mail from the assistant chief of police saying that there have been numerous high end bicycle theft reports over the last few weeks and that the common factor has been each of the victims have used programs like map my ride or strava to log their miles.
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I recently received an e-mail from the assistant chief of police saying that there have been numerous high end bicycle theft reports over the last few weeks and that the common factor has been each of the victims have used programs like map my ride or strava to log their miles.
I choose not to live in a state of fear. Sometimes I don't even lock my apartment door.
02-11-14, 12:03 PM
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I recently received an e-mail from the assistant chief of police saying that there have been numerous high end bicycle theft reports over the last few weeks and that the common factor has been each of the victims have used programs like map my ride or strava to log their miles.
As far as the topic, personally I don't lock them up inside. I ride my bikes too much to fiddle around with U-locks and cables every single day. I just don't want to feel like inside my own house is unsafe (even though, sadly no house is ever safe).
02-11-14, 12:09 PM
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That's true, to some extent. Any house, regardless of the neighborhood, could be robbed. But most of the petty crimes and thefts happen near the neighborhoods where burglars live. Professional thieves may hit up the richy rich neighborhoods, but your ordinary tweaker derelict isn't driving around to the best neighborhoods to rob the most expensive house on the block. They are gonna peep into houses near where they live to try and score some quick cash. So, in general it doesn't necessarily matter where you live, but the nicer the neighborhood, the more safe you are.
02-11-14, 12:15 PM
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I don't use Strava, but I have posted GPS tracks online before. I totally hear you on that...I NEVER post the beginning part of the ride from my house. Now imagine posting pictures of you on your nice new multi-thousand $$ Colnago, and a GPS track right back to your house. Just seems way too foolish.
02-11-14, 02:58 PM
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If a serious thief breaks into my house, he already has everything I own. The most I can do is slow him down, and no bike lock is going to slow down a guy who already has the tools to break in. Make your house a pain to break into (dogs, shrubs, lights on timers, good neighbors, etc), don't leave a pile of cash and diamonds on top of the plasma TV in the front window, and carry good insurance.
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02-11-14, 03:00 PM
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If a serious thief breaks into my house, he already has everything I own. The most I can do is slow him down, and no bike lock is going to slow down a guy who already has the tools to break in. Make your house a pain to break into (dogs, shrubs, lights on timers, good neighbors, etc), don't leave a pile of cash and diamonds on top of the plasma TV in the front window, and carry good insurance.
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All bikes, all inside, all the time...except when being ridden...
02-12-14, 11:02 AM
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My bikes are kept in my workshop, about 15m from my house. I lock them up at night. My angle grinder and hacksaw are stored in the house - it would suck to have a lock cut by my own tools!
02-12-14, 01:17 PM
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Most thieves don't know the value of bicycles. Even if they did, they are hard to take away unless they have a truck and are difficult to sell for any reasonable amount. Thieves look for something like jewelry, money, and small things in demand. A good North Face jacket might be as enticing as a $5,000 bike.
02-12-14, 03:58 PM
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For me? In the house but no locks on my bike FWIW.
To me, the biggest security threat is away from the house for obvious reasons. If you ride a $5K bike, better keep your eye on it or it will likely disappear.
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Sometimes when I go on vacation I'll lock my bikes to each other and then to the pinball machine. But it's just with a basic cable lock.
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02-12-14, 05:48 PM
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My bikes held onto my wall in my bedroom! (yes, I live in NYC small ass apartments :/
02-13-14, 05:45 AM
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Sometimes is doesn't even take that much. I've warned several BF members via PM that have posted photos of their bike with their phone GPS data still embedded in the photo info (I use an extension in my browser to view photo info [so that I can deconstruct how a shot was taken by knowing focal length, aperture, ISO, shutter speed, etc]). I mean, as RPK says, I choose not to live in fear, but at the same time, having a map attached to your bike photo is silly.
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