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Old 03-24-14, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Hey, @coasting, if shortening the stem is good wouldn't reversing the stem be even better?
don't try getting clever with me. it would never work.
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Originally Posted by coasting
don't try getting clever with me. it would never work.
It has come up on BF in the past, but I don't think you weighed in on the question.
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i will say this once and only once...

stems must be flipped. i.e. downwards. it looks pro. i think that says it all.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Couple gals went down hard. Out cold, and didn't regain while waiting for the two ambulances. My race, they hit it stupidly hard from the start. The wind was there, and folks were just trying to hide the whole race. No matter who was in their way, they were taking that spot. Then, they would slam on the brakes for the corners, which was not at all necessary. Hell, the starting whistle blew, and riders next to me went down like the guy on Laugh In on the tricycle.

All in all, it was an OK day, as I was able to hang with the group for longer than expected, and was able to ride shoulder to shoulder with 100 of my closest friends for a bit. A group of ten or so broke away, and they lapped me at 35 minutes. No sense in racing with 3's, and college kids, but I had to make sure I could roll in a large group again, and though I wasn't as aggressive as needed, I was OK. It will come.
Ouch.

Congrats on staying upright.
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Originally Posted by coasting
it looks pro. i think that says it all.
...is this still true now that this is simply the road forum, and no longer the 41 ?
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
Ouch.

Congrats on staying upright.
...I wish people would not quote lines like

Originally Posted by LAJ
Couple gals went down hard.
because I am already on the list of people with poor deportment, and it's just too much temptatation.
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Originally Posted by coasting
i will say this once and only once...

stems must be flipped. i.e. downwards. it looks pro. i think that says it all.
Why are you still awake?
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Originally Posted by coasting
i will say this once and only once...

stems must be flipped. i.e. downwards. it looks pro. i think that says it all.
-17° is the only proper stem
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I have just received some terrible news via Facebook. Can it be true?

Just look at that delicious burger, fries, coke, pie and whatever that other thing is, donut maybe?

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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...among the many strange adventures I've had in a purposefully chosen adventurous life, one of the more interesting ones was as a farrier.

While in school for this, the instructor made a big deal in one of the corrective shoeing demonstrations about straightening the position and
travel of the front hoof of a recreational horse which winged out quite noticeably. So he cut down the inside of the hoof some, and stuck a
custom shoe with a little hook on the outside on the poor beast, and at the end that horse stood and walked just as straight as could be.

Three or four days later, of course, the horse pulled up lame. So you need to be the final arbiter on fit issues.
Believe me, any interactions I have with my fitter are exactly that- interactions. He listens to what I say and additionally solicits more info/detail that I may not be savvy enough to disclose. Sure he makes recommendations and he has some goal numbers that he is trying to achieve- even the stem, if I wanted a shorter one because I didn't want to buy new bars, that was ok, its just that the problem was not with the overall bar position, just the reach of the bars. But every decision is mine. He has only talked me into one thing (shorter cranks) that I was unsure about and I have to say now that I'm on them I wholeheartedly agree. The thing is that I'm a novice cyclist, so I really do actually need a more experienced eye giving me some recommendations. I'm very confident eventually the fit will be perfect, it just may take a little tinkering.

Since I've taken up cycling, the only person that I've paid money to that has not patronized me at least momentarily has been this fitter. He knows what he's doing and is a great guy to boot.


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Originally Posted by Heathpack
No intervals, mostly steady swimming except for a warm up & cool down. BUT I swim in a tiny pool at the Y that is used for kids swim lessons. It is 17 yards long and only 3.5 feet deep. I am bad at flip turns anyway but can't really do them in this shallow pool. So I get a little pause every 17 yd. Otherwise, I don't stop because I only have an hour in the AM before I need to leave for work.

When non-swimming people see me swim, they comment, "oh you have a smooth stroke." But I went to a few masters swim sessions and the coach was all in a panic to change my stoke, I got the impression there is something significantly wrong with it. She had me doing these drills which made me feel like I was on the verge of drowning, that was no fun, so I just stopped going. I never really got from her what the problem was, but I do notice that I have a bit of a pause when both arms come together and I am fully proned out.

For some reason, though, I don't really mind swimming slowly. I find swimming very relaxing.

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As long as it's not hurting, and you enjoy going slow, just enjoy it. You can do flip turns in a 3.5' pool though; I've done plenty. Those pools suck and beat you up, though.
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Old 03-24-14, 12:45 PM
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I'm starting to think the silver bullet and the grey goose need these Ti handlebars. Time to start building the bar fund.


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Some people actually do talk about bikes, and don't need to hit the scuzball lobbed over the plate.

As far as fit.... I thought I had a pretty healthy core, considering the riding I had done. Many hours at a time, with a fairly aggressive position, especially for the Rando stuff I was doing. Not so. First planks and incline sit-ups I tried, I was confused. I could barely complete what I thought was a good amount for a supposedly fit person. Much better now, though yesterday I got my first hand cramp. (Another scuzball? You decide....)
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Originally Posted by coasting
why anyone would ruin a nice bike ride with a run is beyond me. triathletes...ppffffffff
Sadly, my next race, I won't be. Knee is still too screwy from squats to run, so I just switched from the Olympic distance to the half-iron aquabike. BAH!
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Originally Posted by coasting
i think if you didn't get drilled in swimming technique when little, it is harder to learn as an adult. i think grown ups over think it.
It's called Adult Onset Swimming, among swimmers. It's why I swim far more than ex-swimmers who still beat me out of the water.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...I used to swim a lot as part of my routine until I managed to develop a chlorine sensitivity that makes it impossible now.
I swim in the river, for the couple of months where it's warm enough for that, anyway.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I swim in the river, for the couple of months where it's warm enough for that, anyway.
...the river along here comes right out of the bottom of the lake at the dam above, so it's pretty damn cold 12 months of the year.

I have a friend who swims at Folsom lake and says you can get wetsuits that are loose enough to swim comfortably, but I have some doubts.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
No intervals, mostly steady swimming except for a warm up & cool down. BUT I swim in a tiny pool at the Y that is used for kids swim lessons. It is 17 yards long and only 3.5 feet deep. I am bad at flip turns anyway but can't really do them in this shallow pool. So I get a little pause every 17 yd. Otherwise, I don't stop because I only have an hour in the AM before I need to leave for work.

When non-swimming people see me swim, they comment, "oh you have a smooth stroke." But I went to a few masters swim sessions and the coach was all in a panic to change my stoke, I got the impression there is something significantly wrong with it. She had me doing these drills which made me feel like I was on the verge of drowning, that was no fun, so I just stopped going. I never really got from her what the problem was, but I do notice that I have a bit of a pause when both arms come together and I am fully proned out.

For some reason, though, I don't really mind swimming slowly. I find swimming very relaxing.

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I'd like to know what you mean by this. Can you explain a little more?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Amen

Originally Posted by 3alarmer
I am already on the list of people with poor deportment.
Wut? Not you! How could that be?

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I have a friend at Folsom State who says you can get wetsuits that are loose enough to swim comfortably, but I have some doubts.
Do tell.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Sadly, my next race, I won't be. Knee is still too screwy from squats to run, so I just switched from the Olympic distance to the half-iron aquabike. BAH!
I TOLD you running was stupd.

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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
I'd like to know what you mean by this. Can you explain a little more?
Sure. I don't move my arms continuously. In a very slight way. Say I'm breathing on my right, my left arm is extended forward. I take my breath and then bring the right arm forward. Then for a brief moment, I keep both the arms extended fully before sweeping my left arm back to take that stroke. I have no idea why I do this. Its not a dramatically pronounced thing, I think untrained eyes probably wouldn't notice it. But it is one thing that masters swim coach focused on right away. That's the only "problem" that I can explain that she found. I'm pretty sure there were other problems, but that's all I really understood.

Swimming does not cause me any pain anywhere. And I'm ok with swimming slowly. So I've never really been motivated to fix my stroke. I can swim a really long time, though, maybe because I have that little pause in my stroke, conserving energy?

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Originally Posted by datlas
I TOLD you running was stupd.

They never listen. Damn kids. Now get off my lawn!!
Running was fine. Squats were not. Lifting is stupid. Running is awesome.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Sure. I don't move my arms continuously. In a very slight way. Say I'm breathing on my right, my left arm is extended forward. I take my breath and then bring the right arm forward. Then for a brief moment, I keep both the arms extended fully before sweeping my left arm back to take that stroke. I have no idea why I do this. Its not a dramatically pronounced thing, I think untrained eyes probably wouldn't notice it. But it is one thing that masters swim coach focused on right away. That's the only "problem" that I can explain that she found. I'm pretty sure there were other problems, but that's all I really understood.

Swimming does not cause me any pain anywhere. And I'm ok with swimming slowly. So I've never really been motivated to fix my stroke. I can swim a really long time, though, maybe because I have that little pause in my stroke, conserving energy?

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It's called gliding, and it's even taught by a group called Total Immersion. It works for getting non-swimmers through the swim leg of a tri, after which they hop on their mountain bikes and ride 12 miles in 50 minutes and then walk a 5k. For anyone wanting to go fast, that pause is bad. However, with you not caring, there's no pressing need to change it if you're happy.
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
Ouch.

Congrats on staying upright.
Thanks sbxx.

P/Z did well, and it's good to see kindablue up there. Track is helping him immensely, and has turned him into a beast. The kid that won has been lapping the Cat 3 fields, from what I understand. As he's a junior, there is no force upgrade. His Dad feels that the distances in the P/1/2 races are too long for a kid.
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I laid off the weights for this last week, and didn't feel as good for the crit yesterday. Tonight and Weds are on the schedule for this week, with a circuit race on Saturday.

Bah Humbug, did you go too heavy right off the bat? It's said to make sure your form is correct before going big.
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