Originally Posted by Man in Black
^ see the far reaching effect of the 41 !
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
Dura Ace downtube shifters allows 9 upshifts at a time and 9 downshifts at a time.
And very few bikes have Campy Super Record. The vast majority of brifters allow only 1 upshift at a time.
Last edited by joe932; 03-17-14 at 04:36 PM.
If you are talking with anyone who has even a passing knowledge of bikes then shifter would be understood to mean what 90%+ of all non mass merchant road bikes are equipped with: integrated levers. There would be no confusion. With either you may have to clarify which brand if it is relevant to the conversation.
If, however, you are running something other than integrated shifteers, this would have to be stated and defined as it is pretty much an anomaly at this point.
If I say I have a car you would rightly assume it has four wheels because that is, by far, the norm even though there are three wheeled cars out there. If you were talking about a three wheeled car you would certainly need to point that out as that is not what the listener would assume when they heard the word car.
Brifter doesn't add any clarity at all to the conversation. It is just a dumb word that some Fred dreamed up and thought he was being clever.
If it does not matter to you which, then it wont matter ..
Lots of races, and rides for that matter, happen outside of flat industrial park crits where you only need the big ring. I was more referring to the good ole days when DT shifting was the norm and double shifting was what was done because there were much fewer physical choices with a 6 speed freewheel.
Like I said, I understood what you meant, but even in the 80's, even with 6-speed freewheels, most racers did not shift the way you are describing.
I stopped racing a few years ago. I rode at or above Cat 2 for a couple of decades and have ridden or raced in more than a dozen countries on three continents.
That doesn't make my opinion any more valid, it is still just an opinion.
Remember when this was about a guy trying to choose between a bike with DT shifters and a bike with an integrated shifter and brake lever combination? Yeah, that was, like, two weeks ago...
Last edited by joe932; 03-17-14 at 05:11 PM.