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joe932 03-19-14 11:20 AM

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Even if a cyclist wants brifters, it is a good idea to buy a frame that has downtube braze-ons in case he (or the person he later sells the frame to) wants downtube shifters in the future. The only new bikes that come with downtube braze-ons are bikes that come with downtube shifters. It is like buying a computer that is backward compatible.

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Motolegs 03-20-14 06:43 PM

Just idly wondering. OP buys himself the bike with DT shifters. Digs it and gets used to it. Then later purchases a ride equipped with handlebar mounted gear changers.

While riding his cool new bike, reaches down to shift before realizing the changers aren't there.. heck it happened to me today..

hairnet 03-20-14 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Motolegs (Post 16596812)
While riding his cool new bike, reaches down to shift before realizing the changers aren't there.. heck it happened to me today..

:lol: It happens to me all the time switching between my bar-ens bike, dt bike, STI bike, and SS. My body is confused.

Motolegs 03-20-14 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 16596824)
:lol: It happens to me all the time switching between my bar-ens bike, dt bike, STI bike, and SS. My body is confused.

Good thing I have just two options to choose from. With four...?? :twitchy:

hairnet 03-20-14 07:48 PM

Reaching for the phantom shifters on the SS mtb is always a reminder to HTFU.

travelerman 03-21-14 03:35 AM

Not sure why anyone would want to go back to down tube shifters after using brifters - one of the best inventions for the bicycle in my lifetime. They make it so much easier to shift quickly and efficiently.

OldsCOOL 03-21-14 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joe932 (Post 16592418)
Even if a cyclist wants brifters, it is a good idea to buy a frame that has downtube braze-ons in case he (or the person he later sells the frame to) wants downtube shifters in the future. The only new bikes that come with downtube braze-ons are bikes that come with downtube shifters. It is like buying a computer that is backward compatible.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=369810

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This is what makes the older Cannondales so versatile and compatible with the modern set. You can use those braze-ons for brifter cable stops with the available parts to adapt it. The rear dropouts can readily be spread by hand to fit 130mm hubs/axles and the oversized tubing fits right in.

I'm going with the DT shifters indexed to cassette size and may go with 9sp barcons at some point.

But please dont send me back to Schwinn Varsity stem shifters, turkey levers and pie plate dork disc. Ugh.

datlas 03-21-14 04:44 AM

Hi. What's this thread about?

banerjek 03-21-14 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Motolegs (Post 16596812)
Just idly wondering. OP buys himself the bike with DT shifters. Digs it and gets used to it. Then later purchases a ride equipped with handlebar mounted gear changers.

While riding his cool new bike, reaches down to shift before realizing the changers aren't there.. heck it happened to me today..

The solution is more bikes so you get used to dealing with differences. I have 4 different shifting systems on my bikes and never mix them up, not even the Rival and 6700.

Motolegs 03-21-14 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 16597707)
The solution is more bikes so you get used to dealing with differences. I have 4 different shifting systems on my bikes and never mix them up, not even the Rival and 6700.

More bikes... I really like this reply.

brandenjs 03-21-14 05:55 PM

Very cool thread. If this was started in the C&V section the answers would be very similar I think. I just changed my Black Lightning from indexed downtubes to these 7 speed Tourney STI's (not top of the line, but easy and inexpensive to switch). I liked the downtubes, but I've been spoiled by STI's over the years. And much more comfortable hoods to ride on.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...sf6dadd9e.jpeg

RollCNY 03-21-14 06:23 PM

If someone wants extremely comfortable hoods on a DT shifter bike or single speed, TRP RRL levers are phenomenal, and IMO are as comfortable as my Campagnolo Ergo levers.

Bah Humbug 03-21-14 06:29 PM

How is this thread still going?

RollCNY 03-21-14 06:38 PM

Newton's 1st law of motion.

hairnet 03-21-14 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 16599762)
If someone wants extremely comfortable hoods on a DT shifter bike or single speed, TRP RRL levers are phenomenal, and IMO are as comfortable as my Campagnolo Ergo levers.

Can confirm

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/sr-semi-pro-4881_22.jpg

Cane Creek SCR-5 if you want imitation Campy :P

http://i.imgur.com/obBh9Bp.jpg?1

big chainring 03-21-14 07:46 PM

I like the feel of shifting downtube shifters. Fishing about, dialing in the right cable tension, listening for the chain to quiet and sync up on the cog. Feels like....... victory.

rebel1916 03-21-14 09:19 PM

Are you guys talking about Ergos?

v70cat 03-22-14 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 16599952)
I like the feel of shifting downtube shifters. Fishing about, dialing in the right cable tension, listening for the chain to quiet and sync up on the cog. Feels like....... victory.

Do you like to start your car with a crank?

OldsCOOL 03-22-14 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 16599774)
How is this thread still going?

It is being fueled by us curmudgeon's blathering on about our Luddite love for downtube shifters. Yeah, that.

big chainring 03-22-14 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by v70cat (Post 16600941)
Do you like to start your car with a crank?

I was just out on the main biking road in my area. Lots of small groups riding. I look at their bikes, the way they're dressed, it's very foreign to the way I look and the bikes I ride. To each his own. Downtube shifters are simple, easy, and I can feel whats happening to my gear selection. I tried brifters on one of my bikes. Just didn't think much of them. No breakthrough moment of marvelous technology. But then I prefer tubular tires, rat trap pedals, and luxurious french leather saddles from the 50's.

v70cat 03-22-14 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 16601077)
I was just out on the main biking road in my area. Lots of small groups riding. I look at their bikes, the way they're dressed, it's very foreign to the way I look and the bikes I ride. To each his own. Downtube shifters are simple, easy, and I can feel whats happening to my gear selection. I tried brifters on one of my bikes. Just didn't think much of them. No breakthrough moment of marvelous technology. But then I prefer tubular tires, rat trap pedals, and luxurious french leather saddles from the 50's.

Do you wear a fedora? :)

OldsCOOL 03-22-14 04:01 PM

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Do you wear a fedora? :)

Only if it has vents.

v70cat 03-22-14 05:26 PM

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Only if it has vents.

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v70cat 03-22-14 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 16601077)
I was just out on the main biking road in my area. Lots of small groups riding. I look at their bikes, the way they're dressed, it's very foreign to the way I look and the bikes I ride. To each his own. Downtube shifters are simple, easy, and I can feel whats happening to my gear selection. I tried brifters on one of my bikes. Just didn't think much of them. No breakthrough moment of marvelous technology. But then I prefer tubular tires, rat trap pedals, and luxurious french leather saddles from the 50's.

I bet he is far to cool to wear spandex.

v70cat 03-22-14 05:29 PM

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I bet he is far to cool to wear spandex.

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