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    Even if a cyclist wants brifters, it is a good idea to buy a frame that has downtube braze-ons in case he (or the person he later sells the frame to) wants downtube shifters in the future. The only new bikes that come with downtube braze-ons are bikes that come with downtube shifters. It is like buying a computer that is backward compatible.

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    Just idly wondering. OP buys himself the bike with DT shifters. Digs it and gets used to it. Then later purchases a ride equipped with handlebar mounted gear changers.

    While riding his cool new bike, reaches down to shift before realizing the changers aren't there.. heck it happened to me today..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motolegs View Post
    While riding his cool new bike, reaches down to shift before realizing the changers aren't there.. heck it happened to me today..
    It happens to me all the time switching between my bar-ens bike, dt bike, STI bike, and SS. My body is confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
    It happens to me all the time switching between my bar-ens bike, dt bike, STI bike, and SS. My body is confused.
    Good thing I have just two options to choose from. With four...??

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    Reaching for the phantom shifters on the SS mtb is always a reminder to HTFU.
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    Not sure why anyone would want to go back to down tube shifters after using brifters - one of the best inventions for the bicycle in my lifetime. They make it so much easier to shift quickly and efficiently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe932 View Post
    Even if a cyclist wants brifters, it is a good idea to buy a frame that has downtube braze-ons in case he (or the person he later sells the frame to) wants downtube shifters in the future. The only new bikes that come with downtube braze-ons are bikes that come with downtube shifters. It is like buying a computer that is backward compatible.

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    This is what makes the older Cannondales so versatile and compatible with the modern set. You can use those braze-ons for brifter cable stops with the available parts to adapt it. The rear dropouts can readily be spread by hand to fit 130mm hubs/axles and the oversized tubing fits right in.

    I'm going with the DT shifters indexed to cassette size and may go with 9sp barcons at some point.

    But please dont send me back to Schwinn Varsity stem shifters, turkey levers and pie plate dork disc. Ugh.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

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    Hi. What's this thread about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motolegs View Post
    Just idly wondering. OP buys himself the bike with DT shifters. Digs it and gets used to it. Then later purchases a ride equipped with handlebar mounted gear changers.

    While riding his cool new bike, reaches down to shift before realizing the changers aren't there.. heck it happened to me today..
    The solution is more bikes so you get used to dealing with differences. I have 4 different shifting systems on my bikes and never mix them up, not even the Rival and 6700.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    The solution is more bikes so you get used to dealing with differences. I have 4 different shifting systems on my bikes and never mix them up, not even the Rival and 6700.
    More bikes... I really like this reply.

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    Very cool thread. If this was started in the C&V section the answers would be very similar I think. I just changed my Black Lightning from indexed downtubes to these 7 speed Tourney STI's (not top of the line, but easy and inexpensive to switch). I liked the downtubes, but I've been spoiled by STI's over the years. And much more comfortable hoods to ride on.


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    If someone wants extremely comfortable hoods on a DT shifter bike or single speed, TRP RRL levers are phenomenal, and IMO are as comfortable as my Campagnolo Ergo levers.

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    How is this thread still going?
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    Newton's 1st law of motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
    If someone wants extremely comfortable hoods on a DT shifter bike or single speed, TRP RRL levers are phenomenal, and IMO are as comfortable as my Campagnolo Ergo levers.
    Can confirm



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    Last edited by hairnet; 03-21-14 at 07:37 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
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    I like the feel of shifting downtube shifters. Fishing about, dialing in the right cable tension, listening for the chain to quiet and sync up on the cog. Feels like....... victory.

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    Are you guys talking about Ergos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    I like the feel of shifting downtube shifters. Fishing about, dialing in the right cable tension, listening for the chain to quiet and sync up on the cog. Feels like....... victory.
    Do you like to start your car with a crank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
    How is this thread still going?
    It is being fueled by us curmudgeon's blathering on about our Luddite love for downtube shifters. Yeah, that.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v70cat View Post
    Do you like to start your car with a crank?
    I was just out on the main biking road in my area. Lots of small groups riding. I look at their bikes, the way they're dressed, it's very foreign to the way I look and the bikes I ride. To each his own. Downtube shifters are simple, easy, and I can feel whats happening to my gear selection. I tried brifters on one of my bikes. Just didn't think much of them. No breakthrough moment of marvelous technology. But then I prefer tubular tires, rat trap pedals, and luxurious french leather saddles from the 50's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    I was just out on the main biking road in my area. Lots of small groups riding. I look at their bikes, the way they're dressed, it's very foreign to the way I look and the bikes I ride. To each his own. Downtube shifters are simple, easy, and I can feel whats happening to my gear selection. I tried brifters on one of my bikes. Just didn't think much of them. No breakthrough moment of marvelous technology. But then I prefer tubular tires, rat trap pedals, and luxurious french leather saddles from the 50's.
    Do you wear a fedora?

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    Quote Originally Posted by v70cat View Post
    Do you wear a fedora?
    Only if it has vents.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
    Only if it has vents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
    I was just out on the main biking road in my area. Lots of small groups riding. I look at their bikes, the way they're dressed, it's very foreign to the way I look and the bikes I ride. To each his own. Downtube shifters are simple, easy, and I can feel whats happening to my gear selection. I tried brifters on one of my bikes. Just didn't think much of them. No breakthrough moment of marvelous technology. But then I prefer tubular tires, rat trap pedals, and luxurious french leather saddles from the 50's.
    I bet he is far to cool to wear spandex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v70cat View Post
    I bet he is far to cool to wear spandex.
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