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    Chinese Carbon Wheels Retailers

    I'm looking for a pair of 50-58 mm tubulars for racing this season, and I'd like to keep the budget below $800 to get the most value out of my tax return (I should get on that...). Obviously, the Zipps, Eastons, HEDs, etc are out of my range. So I'm pretty much left to choose between used wheels and Chinese/Taiwanese/Philippines? manufacturers.

    I could get a pair of williams 58 for $450 plus shipping (from a facebook group), but they have 1000+ miles of racing miles.

    The other option is to look for knockoffs. I found Yoeleo and HongFu. I'm wondering if anyone has any experience dealing with these retailers, or know of any other good retailers.

    Also, how do the knockoff wheels compare to the well known brands?




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    a 1900 g carbon wheel set? nah.
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    My experience with Farsport was good. Purchasing and product.
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    I bought a pair of 38mm carbon clinchers with alloy braking surface this winter from Farsports. Yet to ride them but they look very nice. Came in right at $600 shipped to my door. Didn't actually weigh them but they are supposed to be around 1350 grams I believe. I did lose 1 pound on my bike going from my Shimano Rs10's to these.

    Very nice to deal with. I did quite a bit of research before and Farsports was consistently mentioned as one of the top 2-3 in the Chinese/Taiwanese market.

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    The Williams are sorta heavy.

    You should be able to get use HED Stinger 6s for under $800/pair. I just peeked on eBay. A slew of Reynolds wheels, 46 and 66mm, for under $800. If I were using normal/narrow rims I'd be all over the 66s at $650. Not so many Stingers but if you get a 2009? or later Stinger then you'll definitely want to have wide clinchers for training, else you'll be redoing your brakes every time you switch wheels. I'm a fan of HEDs and Reynolds. Zipp I suppose but I haven't owned or ridden any of their recent wheels, like since they started making the 404s (I had 340s and 440s).
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    Is there a real difference between 20.5 mm and 23 mm rims? I plan to use 23 mm tubulars, but I figured 23 mm rims might make it more aerodynamic, and probably more stiff and durable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
    The Williams are sorta heavy.

    You should be able to get use HED Stinger 6s for under $800/pair. I just peeked on eBay. A slew of Reynolds wheels, 46 and 66mm, for under $800. If I were using normal/narrow rims I'd be all over the 66s at $650. Not so many Stingers but if you get a 2009? or later Stinger then you'll definitely want to have wide clinchers for training, else you'll be redoing your brakes every time you switch wheels. I'm a fan of HEDs and Reynolds. Zipp I suppose but I haven't owned or ridden any of their recent wheels, like since they started making the 404s (I had 340s and 440s).
    1+ on this. Used Zipp 404 clinchers can be had for 800-900 all day on the bay. HED/Zipp owner and luv'em both.
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    I have some Yeoleo 23mm wide 50mm carbon clinchers. I have put about 1000 miles so far and they are holding up great. I did buy some Swissstop black prince pads instead of the blue ones they came with though.

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    I bought from the seller diy-bike on ebay and had a decent transaction. Shipping was longer than other customers took (it was ~3 weeks from China to RI), but no biggie there.

    I only bought a rear (I have a Bontrager Aura 5 up front). 50mm full carbon clincher. 893g bare, no skewer, which was 55g lighter than the 6700 Ultegra rear it replaced. Haven't put many miles on it because of winter. Nice looking wheel, though. Seems like a quality piece. Novitec hub seems to have the freehub greased decently, as it's not nearly as loud as I expected. They claim it has heat resistant treatment on the brake track, but I don't have the occasion around here to ride the brakes.

    Hope this helps.

    It came with cork pads, skewer and I asked for rim tape and spare spokes.

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    Shop used.

    I bought some older Zipp 404s with tires and cassette used for $500.

    I bought a set of Reynolds 46s with five tires and a case of Mastik One for $600.

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    got a set from Farsports. Communication is sketchy but from start to finish it was about 6 business days for my wheels to arrive.

    I've ridden them about 2,500 miles. They're just as true as they first arrived at my door. 50 carbon clinchers at 1350g.

    I rode some seriously ROUGH terrain on them. I am very impressed.
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    I purchased 50 mm clinchers from Yoeleo 23 mm wide more than a year ago. They are phenomenal, nothing to complain. You can ask them to use different color spokes (i.e. red and white) and brands, they have Sapim CX-Ray black and silver, any nipple pattern (i.e. silver and black), different colored hubs. Make sure you get their top of the line model without holes in the rim, they call it U-Shape Special Assembly Technology Super Light. I would get them in UD carbon to save the weight, because 3K and 12K is just a veneer on top of UD. I would get glossy for easier cleaning and better looks. Also, they could make wheels with your own hubs, if you want. I'd recommend going 24/28 for durability for up to 60 mm deep and maybe 25 mm wide. I put Zipp stickers on them, many people think it's Zipps, even though they don't have dimples. I have yellow SwissStops on my bike and they make noise though when breaking, I'm thinking about migrating to BlackPrince. Order with extra spokes, just in case. You can send them an e-mail and they'll make the wheels just the way you want them.

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    ^^^ So you put on the ZIPP decals or did they do it for you?
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    I purchased and attached Zipp stickers myself. I want to say that initially I was not impressed with deep profile wheels in general, it wasn't Yoeleo's fault, I just didn't feel the added benefit. However, after riding for a few weeks on fast group rides, I tried going back to my regular aluminum rim wheels, and then it was obvious that deep profile wheels are faster, if you get going north of 20 mph. So now I use them all the time, unless it's a really slow ride, and thinking about getting 60 and 88 mm U shaped deep sets from Yoeleo in the future. The best quality wheels are Enve's with molded (not drilled like everybody else's) nipple holes and they are made in the US, however, since most people here live in poverty due to difficult economy, you won't notice the difference between expensive Enves or Zipps and good quality Chinese wheels and you'll save a fortune, which you probably don't have to begin with anyway.

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    I see that these Chinese wheels don't really have real U shape profiles like zipps have, more like V with blunt finishing.

    I think I'm going to go with farsports. Their wheels seem to be good quality and competitively priced. They had a TN and TM series, where the TM series was about 100g lighter in the wheelset, and about $100 more expensive. I'm going to go with the TN series because their rims are slightly heavier, which I assume translates into durability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikegear View Post
    ?..you won't notice the difference between expensive Enves or Zipps and good quality Chinese wheels...
    Incorrect. So very, very incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
    Incorrect. So very, very incorrect.
    Add Zipp decals and the rims magically transform. Duh, Bdop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbxx1985 View Post
    Add Zipp decals and the rims magically transform. Duh, Bdop.
    How did I not see that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by da_beej View Post
    I bought a pair of 38mm carbon clinchers with alloy braking surface this winter from Farsports. Yet to ride them but they look very nice. Came in right at $600 shipped to my door. Didn't actually weigh them but they are supposed to be around 1350 grams I believe. I did lose 1 pound on my bike going from my Shimano Rs10's to these.

    Very nice to deal with. I did quite a bit of research before and Farsports was consistently mentioned as one of the top 2-3 in the Chinese/Taiwanese market.
    Got to say, I'm very suspiscuous of 38mm deep CF/AL clincher at 1350 grams for $600.

    First, Farsports, only claims 1440 grams. http://farsports.en.alibaba.com/prod...nly_1400g.html

    Second, I'm having trouble believing they can build a quality wheel at that price and weight. Comparable Zipp 303 with aluminum rim weighed more like 1600 grams.

    Cheap, light, durable, pick 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Got to say, I'm very suspiscuous of 38mm deep CF/AL clincher at 1350 grams for $600.

    First, Farsports, only claims 1440 grams. http://farsports.en.alibaba.com/prod...nly_1400g.html

    Second, I'm having trouble believing they can build a quality wheel at that price and weight. Comparable Zipp 303 with aluminum rim weighed more like 1600 grams.

    Cheap, light, durable, pick 2.
    Okay let's call it 1440, I'm not going to take mine apart and weigh them. I do have the bitex hubs are supposedly the lightest of their options.

    You are probably correct about build quality but I also paid 1/4 the price. As long as they don't blow up on me when Im riding them I don't care if I have to buy a new pair of wheels every 2-3 years. 600 every 2-3 years for light wheels is better to me than shelling out more than twice my bikes worth for the wheels that do on it. (2010 caad 9) Especially if my $600 wheels are just as light or lighter.

    To each their own, I was just saying that you can get some pretty light wheels that quite a few people have tested for a reasonable price from farsports. (aswering the op)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikegear View Post
    I purchased and attached Zipp stickers myself. I want to say that initially I was not impressed with deep profile wheels in general, it wasn't Yoeleo's fault, I just didn't feel the added benefit. However, after riding for a few weeks on fast group rides, I tried going back to my regular aluminum rim wheels, and then it was obvious that deep profile wheels are faster, if you get going north of 20 mph. So now I use them all the time, unless it's a really slow ride, and thinking about getting 60 and 88 mm U shaped deep sets from Yoeleo in the future. The best quality wheels are Enve's with molded (not drilled like everybody else's) nipple holes and they are made in the US, however, since most people here live in poverty due to difficult economy, you won't notice the difference between expensive Enves or Zipps and good quality Chinese wheels and you'll save a fortune, which you probably don't have to begin with anyway.
    Why would you do that? Why not slap on some Huffy or Magna stickers? Go for the lulz and get some Generic Carbon pride going.

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