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    Bike purchase recommendation (lots of links)

    Hello, all.

    I'm looking to get a new (to me) bike, probably either a less-aggressive road bike or a hybrid, and, of course, would prefer not to spend too much. I want something pleasant and easy to ride, but a bit more dynamic and appropriate than my old trek mtb from when I was younger. I've been doing a whole bunch of research over the last week or so, and kept an eye on my local craigslistings. I've learned some things, and a lot of my research has taken me to threads here, so I figured this would be a good place to look for advice.

    I've collected a bunch of links from craigslist as well as a handful from bikesdirect and performancebikes that look possibly decent. I've tried to do some reasearch in particular on most or all of the ones I've found, and these either got some good things said about them or I couldn't find a lot on. I'm not certain by any means that I'll be getting one of these, but I was thinking anyone who might be willing to look over them and give some info or thoughts about any that stick out as good-looking options or good deals, or particularly bad ones, could be useful to me and help me know what to keep an eye out for in the future.

    For what it's worth, I'm about 5'11 (I think a 54-56 cm and 210 lbs, in pretty good shape (not that I couldn't stand to improve it, certainly), and 25 years old.

    (I'm also aware of the somewhat-prevailing LBS proponency, and have done some visiting, which I'm sure will continue. That is fine, but this is more just helping me get thoughts on things my research has turned up)

    Thanks!

    Scott Metrix 40 300

    Tange Cilo Sport 325

    Jamis Ventura 380

    Diamondback Sorrento 125

    Raleigh R-300 160

    Bianchi Premio 225

    Fuji Touring 400


    Dawes Lightning 1000 400

    Motobecane Mirage 350 (or super mirage for 400)

    Motobecane Cafe Latte 400

    Gravity Liberty CX 400


    GT Zum Flatbar 400

    Fuji Absolute 2.3 370

    Schwinn Searcher 4 350

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    Ride them. Then pick the one that speaks to you.

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    No offense OP but asking others to look through 14-15 links and report on them is a bit much. Go out and ride a few or all of them. Narrow it down to 1-3 bikes you like and I'm sure people would be more likely to give feedback at that point.

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    PS and what he said

    Not sure about the sizing on the used bikes you've posted - I'm a little over 5'11" and most seem on the small side for me, YMMV. That Jamis looks nice but that one looks like it would probably be too big for your size? I would say you should get properly measured first either at a shop you trust or if you want to go internet or using something like the Competitive Cyclist calculator.

    For online stuff, although I've never bought one the Bikes Direct bikes seem like a pretty good deal, those Motobecanes look pretty decent, of the ones you listed - maybe the Super Mirage? If you wanted to go the Hybrid route, the Fuji Absolutes from Performance ride nice can be a good deal. My girlfriend bought an ABosulute 3.0 last fall, which she's happy with.

    Realize if you buy bike online, there very likely may be some minor setup and adjustment which you'll either need to do yourself or rely on LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcdam View Post
    No offense OP but asking others to look through 14-15 links and report on them is a bit much. Go out and ride a few or all of them. Narrow it down to 1-3 bikes you like and I'm sure people would be more likely to give feedback at that point.
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    newbie on these bikes ?, you got a favorite bike Shop?

    Customer service matters more than brand, if the money cost is nearly all the same..

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    Do you know what size you need? The bikes from craigslist look like they might all be different sizes.

    Personally, I'd go the Performance route. They can help you get into the right size and right bike for the money. They might be a bit more, but you can also return to the shop if something doesn't feel/seem right with the bike or if you need help with anything. You can't do that with a bike from BD or craigslist - you either know how to fix the issue yourself, or you pay for a shop to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcdam View Post
    No offense OP but asking others to look through 14-15 links and report on them is a bit much. Go out and ride a few or all of them. Narrow it down to 1-3 bikes you like and I'm sure people would be more likely to give feedback at that point.
    Indeed, and that is why I didn't ask that!

    I said I posted a lot of links and any people do feel like looking at and/or commenting on would be appreciated. If you feel like looking at 2 or 3 and no others, then that is plenty. I posted all of the links along with the make/model and price here in the post to 1) provide the full spectrum of things I was considering to help give an idea and 2) ensure that I didn't accidentally leave out a particularly good deal (which someone more knowledgeable would be better able to recognize based just on the model and price even if they don't feel like looking at the links).

    I apologize if I failed to communicate that intention effectively or the post came across as demanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    newbie on these bikes ?, you got a favorite bike Shop?

    Customer service matters more than brand, if the money cost is nearly all the same..

    Not yet. As I said, I've been looking around the local ones, so far nothing has struck me.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeshulEd View Post
    Do you know what size you need? The bikes from craigslist look like they might all be different sizes.

    Personally, I'd go the Performance route. They can help you get into the right size and right bike for the money. They might be a bit more, but you can also return to the shop if something doesn't feel/seem right with the bike or if you need help with anything. You can't do that with a bike from BD or craigslist - you either know how to fix the issue yourself, or you pay for a shop to do it.

    I think either a 54 or 56 cm should be good depending on the bike in question. Some of them don't have sizes listed, which obviously I would need to get prior to considering a purchase, but I think all the ones that did were in that range. Please let me know if I'm mistaken, after going through so many it is certainly possible I missed something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicHour View Post
    PS and what he said

    Not sure about the sizing on the used bikes you've posted - I'm a little over 5'11" and most seem on the small side for me, YMMV. That Jamis looks nice but that one looks like it would probably be too big for your size? I would say you should get properly measured first either at a shop you trust or if you want to go internet or using something like the Competitive Cyclist calculator.

    For online stuff, although I've never bought one the Bikes Direct bikes seem like a pretty good deal, those Motobecanes look pretty decent, of the ones you listed - maybe the Super Mirage? If you wanted to go the Hybrid route, the Fuji Absolutes from Performance ride nice can be a good deal. My girlfriend bought an ABosulute 3.0 last fall, which she's happy with.

    Realize if you buy bike online, there very likely may be some minor setup and adjustment which you'll either need to do yourself or rely on LBS.
    Thanks, and yes, the Jamis would be too big, I'm sure. I inquired about the size but posted before I got a response, and it's a 59.

    On the note of sizes, are center to center or center to top listings more common? It's hard to be precise without knowing which is indicated.

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    Taiwan is the dominant factory site , brands are who placed the order.
    they specify name and the parts pick.

    some supply a particular tube set shape spec. , Hydroforming is a new High tech way to shape aluminum

    by now the Big TW factories have the production facilities to do all that,
    a result of being where the other importers spent their money.

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    Well sizing is a bit all over the place across brands these days so 'named' sizing can be confusing. For example my proper size across different brands might be called a "M", "M/L", "L", "XL" "54" "56", "57" or "58" depending on how a mfr has chosen to name their sizes.

    Best to consult the geometry chart for the specific bike you are looking at, which could be potentially a challenge if you are starting out and know nothing about what fits you. YMMV but, I fit a bike by looking at the Horizontal top tube, head tube length, and seat tube (BB center to top of collar) measurements in that order also considering ST and HT angles, but then I am usually comparing these numbers to a bike I already have and like. Others go by Stack and Reach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincente Fox View Post
    Thanks, and yes, the Jamis would be too big, I'm sure. I inquired about the size but posted before I got a response, and it's a 59.

    On the note of sizes, are center to center or center to top listings more common? It's hard to be precise without knowing which is indicated.
    Last edited by MagicHour; 03-12-14 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicHour View Post
    Well sizing is a bit all over the place across brands these days so 'named' sizing can be confusing. For example my proper size across different brands might be called a "M", "M/L", "L", "XL" "54" "56", "57" or "58" depending on how a mfr has chosen to name their sizes.

    Best to consult the geometry chart for the specific bike you are looking at, which could be potentially a challenge if you are starting out and know nothing about what fits you. YMMV but, I fit a bike by looking at the Horizontal top tube, head tube length, and seat tube (BB center to top of collar) measurements in that order also considering ST and HT angles, but then I am usually comparing these numbers to a bike I already have and like. Others go by Stack and Reach.
    Thanks! And yeah, I had read that sizing is a bit inconsistent across brands, which is why there is sort of a range of similar sizes that seem like they might fit me depending on the particular brand's conventions, but that wouldn't be something I would know until I try the specific ones out or get exact measurements for each bike to compare. And then there are cases like the Jamis, where I simply didn't realize what size it was at the time and it certainly wouldn't work.

    I have done a LITTLE sampling at bike shops, but, personally, while I can tell what does or doesn't feel nice, I have a little trouble figuring out what would fit best and make me happiest for what I want based on riding around for a few minutes. As such, I intend to continue test rides, but was thinking people might be able to give some feedback if any particular examples seem like they would be a good fit, or are particularly well-liked or poorly-liked, or seem like specifically good or bad values.

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    I'll bite. Well, I could easily opt for the new Motobecane Mirage because it has the classic "square" frame geometry for a racing bike, and I'd worry about upgrading later. Hopefully, you can handle DT shifters. Watch the top tube length, that 56cm is a tad long for a 56cm. Depending on how you reach, your flexibility, you might want the 54cm with the 55cm top tube. My 5.11" ft son road a 56cm Fuji with a stretched top tube and it caused some neck/shoulder problems on longer rides.

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    At least make sure you use the CC fit calculator. then buy anything that fits and that makes you say, "I want to ride that."

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    Thanks for the suggestions!

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    Stopped by a Performance Bikes today and got another fitting. Resulted in a S/M on a Fuji Absolute, a.k.a. 17" which translates to 55cm, I believe.

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