Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 127
  1. #1
    Senior Member Avispa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    EU
    My Bikes
    Paduano Racing - Fidia (ex bike: Scott Foil and Paduano Gladio)
    Posts
    161
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Greatness of Pinarello, are they truely that great?

    I've heard so many things of Pinarello and read more. Are there none of you who have used, ridden or own a Dogma or Dogma K having feedback that contradict the greatness of this bike/ frame? Are they really that great? I am not interested in the Chinarellos, so please...

    Thank you
    /R

  2. #2
    Senior Member buffalowings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    699
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Avispa View Post
    I've heard so many things of Pinarello and read more. Are there none of you who have used, ridden or own a Dogma or Dogma K having feedback that contradict the greatness of this bike/ frame? Are they really that great? I am not interested in the Chinarellos, so please...

    Thank you
    /R
    According to my lbs, Pinarello frames are on the heavy side, but they ride very well.
    Noooooo! My thread!! -_________- http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/896498-Do-you-pack-quot-heat-quot-while-cycling

  3. #3
    Senior Member spectastic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    texas
    My Bikes
    road bikes
    Posts
    1,735
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    what's wrong with chinarellos?
    1

  4. #4
    Senior Member kv501's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    709
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
    what's wrong with chinarellos?
    This would have been a good thread without bringing up Chinese carbon frames for the 19,000th time.

  5. #5
    pan y agua merlinextraligh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Jacksonville
    My Bikes
    Wilier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Co-Motion Robusta; Schwinn Paramount; Motobecane Phantom Cross; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er
    Posts
    27,236
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Personally, the Salvador Dali look kills it for me.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

  6. #6
    jmX
    jmX is offline
    Senior Member jmX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Orange, CA
    My Bikes
    Roubaix / Shiv
    Posts
    2,124
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Avispa View Post
    I've heard so many things of Pinarello and read more. Are there none of you who have used, ridden or own a Dogma or Dogma K having feedback that contradict the greatness of this bike/ frame? Are they really that great? I am not interested in the Chinarellos, so please...

    Thank you
    /R
    I'm curious, what have you heard of Pinarello? I read all sorts of magazines and online articles and after 3-4 years I basically know nothing of Pinarello other than the pricetag, the fact that they're a bit heavier than other expensive frames, and they have a kinda ugly fork. I don't think they're doing much of a good job marketing to the US as their brand means nothing to me, aside from being under the TdF winner of course. You being from EU can maybe fill us in on what we're supposed to know.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Avispa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    EU
    My Bikes
    Paduano Racing - Fidia (ex bike: Scott Foil and Paduano Gladio)
    Posts
    161
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jmX View Post
    I'm curious, what have you heard of Pinarello? I read all sorts of magazines and online articles and after 3-4 years I basically know nothing of Pinarello other than the pricetag, the fact that they're a bit heavier than other expensive frames, and they have a kinda ugly fork. I don't think they're doing much of a good job marketing to the US as their brand means nothing to me, aside from being under the TdF winner of course. You being from EU can maybe fill us in on what we're supposed to know.
    Well, without going in to technical, i have heard that they ride incredible. They are as you say, a bit heavy, but the ride quality and feel are very comfortable.
    It seems that bikes get more heavy when they're made to damp and void vibrations (less muscle fatigue). Some might not care or say it's solved by using other tires, but i think there is more to it than tires. Now what i think ain't really interesting, so i was just putting out this question as i am seriously interested.

  8. #8
    A might bewildered... Dudelsack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Loovul
    My Bikes
    Bacchetta Giro ATT 26; Lemond Buenos Aires
    Posts
    6,264
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    They suck. They all suck. Save your money and buy a Trek.

  9. #9
    Senior Member rebel1916's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    2,741
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    They are embarrassingly ridiculous looking.

  10. #10
    Senior Member eja_ bottecchia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    3,407
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
    They suck. They all suck. Save your money and buy a Trek.
    Get back on your meds please.

    To the OP. I don't own a Pinarello, but my friend, who owns one, is vey happy with it, especially the handling.

    I own a Colnago and I am extremely happy with it. I had a choice between a Dogma and a C59. I chose the C59 because I like its classic lines better and because it is no made in Asia.
    Last edited by eja_ bottecchia; 03-13-14 at 02:20 PM.
    My current stable:

    1989 SLX Bottecchia (Campy Athena 11s)
    1999 Cannondale F400 mountain bike
    2012 Bianchi Infinito (Campy Record 11s)
    2012 Colnago C59 in PR99 color scheme (Campy Record 11s)

  11. #11
    Senior Member mpath's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Tsawwassen, BC
    My Bikes
    Wilier Izoard
    Posts
    1,843
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bike building isn't rocket science. After a certain price point, it's really difficult to buy a "bad" bike these days. Buy one if it fits and you like the look of it.

  12. #12
    Powered by Borscht ovoleg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    SoCal
    My Bikes
    Russian Vodka
    Posts
    8,263
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ugliest bikes on the market hands down.
    -Cat-3-o-meter: TBD :/

  13. #13
    Senior Member Silvercivic27's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Dayton, OH
    My Bikes
    Scott addict, Colnago asso, Cervelo S5
    Posts
    1,434
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    They may be ugly, but Giant makes a great frame.

  14. #14
    Senior Member whitemax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    1,805
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I submit that there isn't a dimes worth of difference among the top tier bikes relative to quality. Slightly different geometry perhaps so fit is mostly important. Buy what looks best to you.

  15. #15
    Senior Member gc3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    DC
    My Bikes
    Now I Got Two
    Posts
    2,626
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I've got a pal who bought a Dogma 65.1 and he likes it much better than his Scattante...
    "I tried being reasonable, I didn‘t like it."

    "I understand. I just don't care"

  16. #16
    Senior Member gc3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    DC
    My Bikes
    Now I Got Two
    Posts
    2,626
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    ugliest bikes on the market hands down.
    Nowhere near as fugly as the new Merckx
    "I tried being reasonable, I didn‘t like it."

    "I understand. I just don't care"

  17. #17
    Senior Member Homebrew01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Ffld Cnty Connecticut
    My Bikes
    Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales
    Posts
    15,480
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Personally, the Salvador Dali look kills it for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by rebel1916 View Post
    They are embarrassingly ridiculous looking.
    yup
    Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike

  18. #18
    Senior Member buffalowings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    699
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by gc3 View Post
    I've got a pal who bought a Dogma 65.1 and he likes it much better than his Scattante...
    Past a certain price point.. buy your c60 yet?
    Noooooo! My thread!! -_________- http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/896498-Do-you-pack-quot-heat-quot-while-cycling

  19. #19
    Senior Member gc3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    DC
    My Bikes
    Now I Got Two
    Posts
    2,626
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    C60 is still in the deciding process
    "I tried being reasonable, I didn‘t like it."

    "I understand. I just don't care"

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    No Va but ride also in So Md
    My Bikes
    Cervelo SLC-SL, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX
    Posts
    8,421
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Avispa View Post
    Are there none of you who have used, ridden or own a Dogma or Dogma K having feedback that contradict the greatness of this bike/ frame?
    A more basic question is has anybody here been self-critical of a purchase they made?
    Last edited by StanSeven; 03-13-14 at 07:35 PM.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

  21. #21
    Senior Member buffalowings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    699
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by gc3 View Post
    C60 is still in the deciding process
    Saw a C59 in the shop the other day, classy bike, except the star shaped downtube profile is funky though.
    Noooooo! My thread!! -_________- http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/896498-Do-you-pack-quot-heat-quot-while-cycling

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Somewhere in TX
    My Bikes
    CAAD 9
    Posts
    607
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    They are a very clever company. By focusing on stiffness, they can forgo all those R&D costs other companies sink into "light and stiff" layups. Then capitalize on the history of their name while having some Eastern Hemisphere sweat shops make the frames for cheap, add a few wavy things for style points, and sponsor some pro teams so any onlooker who doesn't know any better will think they are the cat's meow.

    BAM, market share and high profit/frame.

    Winning.

  23. #23
    Senior Member gc3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    DC
    My Bikes
    Now I Got Two
    Posts
    2,626
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    ^^^

    There isn't a face palm big enough....
    "I tried being reasonable, I didn‘t like it."

    "I understand. I just don't care"

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Somewhere in TX
    My Bikes
    CAAD 9
    Posts
    607
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Everything I posted is true.

  25. #25
    Senior Member buffalowings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    699
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggle View Post
    Everything I posted is true.
    x2 seems like the same for any other large manufacturer. Talk about aero profiles, finite element analysis (remove excess material, add strength, add flexibility), layups, composite composition, tapered headtubes, extra wide bottom brackets for stiffness etc etc. Maybe add in a couple rubbery looking neon inserts for, "vibration dampening".
    Noooooo! My thread!! -_________- http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/896498-Do-you-pack-quot-heat-quot-while-cycling

Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •