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Old 03-15-14, 01:26 AM   #1
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Cheese grater bike frame ;-) Pretty interesting.

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Old 03-15-14, 03:51 AM   #2
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I think Arantix introduced that the same year Calfee made their (one-off?) Spider bike, which I always liked.

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Yeah didn't a company named "delta" or something like this come out with a similar frame maybe 6 or 7 years ago??
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Yeah didn't a company named "delta" or something like this come out with a similar frame maybe 6 or 7 years ago??
I'm not sure who it was but I do know the company was sold a year or so ago and there was some design and production improvements done before the brand was launched again recently.
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Can you imagine keeping that thing clean? Here are a number of folks here who won't take the 'nice bike' out in the rain - and those are conventional tubes!
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I'm not sure who it was but I do know the company was sold a year or so ago and there was some design and production improvements done before the brand was launched again recently.
That sounds about right based on what was written in the article.

It seems like this would be less aero on a windy day but one helluva cheese grater!
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Hm... kamtail..
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I knew of those bikes, and was aware that the company was the vicinity of my home. But, I hadn't ever actually seen one. Last summer during a ride at a convenience store stop, a woman riding one of them rolled in with a small group. I began talking to her about her unusual bike, and it turned out that she is married to the guy behind the whole concept. She said that they would be coming back into limited production soon. She assured me that if I wanted one she could help make it happen. I chuckled. For me, the story is far more interesting than the bike. The guy behind it is a very inventive and creative engineer who came up with and developed the idea while in school at a local university. Kudos for thinking outside the box. But as most of us know, not every 'outside the box' idea is a good one.
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I knew of those bikes, and was aware that the company was the vicinity of my home. But, I hadn't ever actually seen one. Last summer during a ride at a convenience store stop, a woman riding one of them rolled in with a small group. I began talking to her about her unusual bike, and it turned out that she is married to the guy behind the whole concept. She said that they would be coming back into limited production soon. She assured me that if I wanted one she could help make it happen. I chuckled. For me, the story is far more interesting than the bike. The guy behind it is a very inventive and creative engineer who came up with and developed the idea while in school at a local university. Kudos for thinking outside the box. But as most of us know, not every 'outside the box' idea is a good one.
Again, the company was sold. The owner is a Taiwanese friend of mine. Whomever you spoke with is no longer involved with this product.
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Yeah didn't a company named "delta" or something like this come out with a similar frame maybe 6 or 7 years ago??
In 2007 I saw the mountain version of the frame at Interbike, and I test rode the road version in 2008.

It's an old design, with no real benefit over what is already being produced at a much lower cost.
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Again, the company was sold. The owner is a Taiwanese friend of mine. Whomever you spoke with is no longer involved with this product.
Ok, this conversation took place last summer and maybe things changed. ...Or maybe I misunderstood what she told me. Either way--small world.

Sorry I disparaged your friends business interest Bob. Can you comment on what he plans to do with it?

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Ok, this conversation took place last summer and maybe things changed. ...Or maybe I misunderstood what she told me. Either way--small world.

Sorry I disparaged your friends business interest Bob. Can you comment on what he plans to do with it?
No apology needed.

I have no idea what his plan is or why he bought the brand. He had a new frame in his booth at TPE show so he must have something in mind but I wasnt interested enough to ask.
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No apology needed.

I have no idea what his plan is or why he bought the brand. He had a new frame in his booth at TPE show so he must have something in mind but I wasnt interested enough to ask.
When you wrote that a friend had purchased the company, my first thought was "Why".

WTF would anyone buy that company/design?
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WTF would anyone buy that company/design?
Yeah. That was pretty much my thought process, too.
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Whomever you spoke with is no longer involved with this product.
Cant say I blame him.
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Actually, thinking about it, there may have been some technology involved in working the carbon that was really at the heart of the investment. Who knows.
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yeah, I'd say the carbon weave might be able to be used for something else in the future, but bikes, not so much.
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