Ardennes+ / Belgium C2 Plus is 20.5~ mm.
Yum...sizzle...Porcine vapors!!! :roflmao2:
Save that victory dance, Cletus.
HED Belgium C2 Clincher Rim : Fairwheel Bikes, Cycling Boutique
17.5mm, right there. pwned.
Pfffft....neener, neener, neener...
Vendor has it wrong:
After pioneering the "wider is better" approach to road rim design more than five years ago with the original Ardennes, HED is now pushing the concept even further with the new Ardennes Plus and its whopping 20mm internal width – 5mm wider than the norm and on par with many mountain bike wheels. While the idea may be radical to some, the positive effect it has on ride performance is undeniable – and big.
Internal width is 20.6mm.
Widened to 21mm internally and 25mm externally
If you want a rim with 20mm internal, just get some $45 kinlin XD-230 rims! Or take your pick of other 29er rims. But you wasted your coin, and that's still a fact.
For $400.00 more I could have a swarm of bees...great.
Except, I don't have a $600 hubset. I have HED hubs...
Where can I find as good a set of wheels for $1K with the R45 hubset?
I haven't seen it...and I don't think it exists?
I could go with DT350s and that would cost me $950.00 for the wheelset. $980 with shipping. So far I've "wasted," $20.00.
You spent a thousand dollars on a wheelset, and it could have been better quality in the end.
Was this thread about rims or brakes? I forget!
$1000, built to order. Not to be found.
Thanks to those of you that replied to my original questions. I get it now.
But is there a wheelset you would recommend that would be better than what came stock? I would use the new wheels on the road only and would want to stay in the 600.00 range. Once again keep in mind I weigh in at 220 right now.
But yeah, I'm gonna stop arguing this point. If you're happy with your wheels, then it doesn't really matter what you paid or what they are.
lmao...Now you're talking.
I'm not selectively reading. I paid $1000.00 for a factory set of wheels and the closest custom build I can find online, without having to do it myself, comes out at more $$$$.
Material wise you can always come out on top if you do it yourself. Except there's a cost associated with learning and becoming efficient at any craft, that translates into a labor cost, and if you don't represent that in total invoice, then we ain't comparing apples to apples.
I practice an art. My implements are custom made. Almost all of them. I don't do it myself, the crafting of the tools of the art is an art within the art. Nevertheless, I'll never fail to recognize the value of such.
No. I'm a wheel builder. Online. Hundreds less.
Whoever was complaining about the internal widths - c2 and Belgium plus are 2 different rims. Plus are fairly stupid wide. Wide enough to have clearance issues on some set ups for road. Really a cross rim.