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nesdog 03-15-14 07:49 PM

Tested the Domane today
 
Last year, I tested a Domane 4.5, as I was looking to replace my Giant OCR2. I was impressed that the Trek was the smoothest bike I'd ever ridden. Unfortunately, crashed my bike a week later and didn't get to continue testing machines for months.

Trek Demo days are running around here now. Two weeks ago, unable to get on the 4, I plopped onto a 6 series, provided by the LBS at a tent on one of our local roads. It only had 23's and was poorly fitted for me. I was surprised at just how harsh it was.

Today, saw another demo tent and they only had a 5.9. Funny...smoother than the 6, but slightly large for me as I was on a 56, but probably need 54. Very nice ride on good pavement and not bad at all on the rougher surfaces. I liked it better than the 6.

Now I gotta go back and try the 4.3, which is in my price range. Should be interesting...maybe it's smoother because it's heavier!

Others on my list include the Scott CR1, a favorite at the LBS I ride with. Tried the Giant Defy Advanced already.

Yeah, I know I should try the Spec. also.

Bob Dopolina 03-15-14 08:59 PM

^^^ You mean you actually felt a difference between bikes? So...I guess all those who say that one carbon frame is as good as another just might be wrong.

Whodathunkit?

Up North 03-16-14 06:51 AM

My first Domane was a 4 series, nice bike, I loved the frame very comfortable. It had 23's and stock rims. I tried a 6 series Domane (23'as well) and found the frame to be nicer handling, more responsive and you can really feel the ISO coupler working on the 6. Overall I noticed a big difference between 4 and 6, so much that I ordered a P1.

robbyville 03-16-14 07:21 AM

I'm also a little surprised by how much the tires make a difference. The other day I put some Conti's on my wheels went from 25mm to 23mm, I probably still have to play with tire pressure but definitely felt that the ride was a little harsher on my Domane simply from that change. I guess I'll find out if it's pressure or width related on my next ride, I put on my road tubeless wheels which also got new 23mm rubber but are pumped to the same pressure as the previous 25's.

wthensler 03-16-14 08:52 AM

I rode the Domane 4.5 extensively, as I wasn't sure whether to get the 56 or the 58 frame. I finally decided to go larger, and by the time I decided Trek had a huge sale on the six series, so I ended up overspending on a 6.2 P1 with Di2. IMO, there's a big difference in frame characteristics, the six soaks up road harshness much better. I would say 'smooth' would be the one word to describe the feel......

I ride 25s with about 90-95 psi......

RIRview 03-16-14 09:50 AM

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I took delivery of my 6.2 P1 about three weeks ago, and I've put about 400 miles on it so far. I absolutely love this bike. I traded in a Madone 5.2, and I've lost none of the stiffness and performance of the Madone. Where I notice a big difference is on rough stretches of pavement. There's an area on the regular route my club rides where the sealant in the asphalt is worn away, so you're basically riding on gravel. On my Madone it was very uncomfortable--I felt like I was being buzzed and vibrated to death. On the Domane, I still feel the vibrations in my hands and feet, but due to the ISO speed decoupler none of that vibration is transmitted to the saddle. (To use an analogy, if I had my eyes closed, I would think I was riding on freshly poured concrete.) As a plus, the bike looks great, too:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=369086

nesdog 03-16-14 12:51 PM

The thing that I noticed was on decent roads, it was like riding on glass.

The most noticeable difference from my OCR2 was how smooth the pedals turned and how well I was able to continue putting whatever meager power I have onto the cranks. My OCR2 is ten years old. When I got back on there, peddling felt more rough and almost gravely.

OldTryGuy 03-16-14 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nesdog (Post 16582687)
The thing that I noticed was on decent roads, it was like riding on glass.

The most noticeable difference from my OCR2 was how smooth the pedals turned and how well I was able to continue putting whatever meager power I have onto the cranks. My OCR2 is ten years old. When I got back on there, peddling felt more rough and almost gravely.

The only thing that gets better with age is a fine wine.

Jiggle 03-16-14 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RIRview (Post 16582162)

That is a good looking machine.

RIRview 03-16-14 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggle (Post 16582790)
That is a good looking machine.

Thanks! I didn't get into road cycling until about four years ago. My first road bike was a Trek 1.2, followed by the Madone. Both were all black, and even through they were great bikes they were very nondescript. I went back and forth on buying the Domane for a couple of months (it wasn't cheap!) but when I finally decided to pull the trigger, I wanted a bike that would not only perform well, it had look great, too. I couldn't be more pleased...

nesdog 03-16-14 03:41 PM

While I'm at it....what Roubaix even shares the price point of the 4.3? (~$2200)

Dunbar 03-16-14 08:46 PM

Did they have bikes with the latest di2 and/or Ultegra 6800? I'm thinking of going to one of those events but I'm mainly interested in taking the newest groupsets out on a longer test ride. It would/will be interesting to see how the Domane rides but I already own a Roubaix.

MikeEckhaus 03-16-14 09:41 PM

The Trek dealer by me has a Domane 5.9 demo with Ultegra Di2 11 speed. I put about 85 miles on it. Great bike. Waiting for a sale on six series' so I can order a P1.

nesdog 03-16-14 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 16583890)
Did they have bikes with the latest di2 and/or Ultegra 6800? I'm thinking of going to one of those events but I'm mainly interested in taking the newest groupsets out on a longer test ride. It would/will be interesting to see how the Domane rides but I already own a Roubaix.

In both cases, (the 5 and 6 series), I rode the electronic groups. Didn't realize that the first time and fumbled for a few minutes figuring out the shifters.

Dunbar 03-16-14 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nesdog (Post 16584036)
In both cases, (the 5 and 6 series), I rode the electronic groups. Didn't realize that the first time and fumbled for a few minutes figuring out the shifters.

Cool, good to know. What's the pedal situation? Do they throw flats on them or do they have the common clipless pedals available to install on the test bikes?

nesdog 03-16-14 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 16584066)
Cool, good to know. What's the pedal situation? Do they throw flats on them or do they have the common clipless pedals available to install on the test bikes?

I had them mount my pedals.

nesdog 03-18-14 01:34 PM

Later this week, I plan on testing a Roubaix, likely the Elite 105 Comp. It's pretty much the same specs as the Trek 4.3 , although several hundred dollars more. But I want to see if the fit or ride is any different. I have heard that the SL4 frames are a bit rougher than previous models.

Has anyone ridden both and can provide feedback?

Dunbar 03-18-14 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nesdog (Post 16589488)
Has anyone ridden both and can provide feedback?

I plan to ride the Domane this weekend during one of the Trek demo events. I own a 2014 Roubaix SL4 Expert (10r carbon) frame which was a warranty replacement for a 2013 SL2 frame. I haven't ridden the SL4 Roubaix with the 8r carbon (105 Comp) but if the Roubaix feels too stiff you should ride one with the CG-R post before you rule it out. I find the ride of the SL4 frame too stiff with a standard carbon seat post. IME, the CG-R post adds a lot of compliance to the ride of the SL4.

Another option would be to try to find a leftover 2013 SL2 Roubaix at one of your local shops. IME the SL2 rides a lot smoother than the SL4 but it's not quite as stiff. The SL4 does get you internal cable routing which looks better.

bt 03-18-14 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina (Post 16581306)
^^^ You mean you actually felt a difference between bikes? So...I guess all those who say that one carbon frame is as good as another just might be wrong.

Whodathunkit?


tire pressure.

Dunbar 03-23-14 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nesdog (Post 16589488)
Has anyone ridden both and can provide feedback?

To update you, I rode 6 series P1 Domane today with Ultegra di2. I own a Roubaix SL4 Expert and used to have an Roubaix SL2 (frame cracked.) I was really impressed with how smooth the Domane was compared to my Roubaix SL4. Even with 23mm tires the iso speed damper ate up everything but the biggest bumps. In comparison the Roubaix SL4 is more like a Tarmac with endurance geometry. The CG-R (Cobble Gobbler) seat post takes just enough of the edge off to make it bearable to me. The one downside to the Domane is it feels a bit softer when you're hammering out of the saddle. The Roubaix feels more like a stiff race bike when hammering hard. If you ride on bad roads the Domane is much better at absorbing bumps IMO.

Bob Dopolina 03-23-14 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bt (Post 16589883)
tire pressure.

road surface.

nesdog 03-23-14 09:18 PM

Thanks for the update! Great information and very helpful. I'm pretty sure a Domane 4.3 is gonna be in my future! Now just got to sell off a toy or two and then start talking to our local Trek dealers. Thankfully, we have quite a few around here.

TexMac 03-24-14 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RIRview (Post 16582162)
I took delivery of my 6.2 P1 about three weeks ago, and I've put about 400 miles on it so far. I absolutely love this bike. I traded in a Madone 5.2, and I've lost none of the stiffness and performance of the Madone. Where I notice a big difference is on rough stretches of pavement. There's an area on the regular route my club rides where the sealant in the asphalt is worn away, so you're basically riding on gravel. On my Madone it was very uncomfortable--I felt like I was being buzzed and vibrated to death. On the Domane, I still feel the vibrations in my hands and feet, but due to the ISO speed decoupler none of that vibration is transmitted to the saddle. (To use an analogy, if I had my eyes closed, I would think I was riding on freshly poured concrete.) As a plus, the bike looks great, too:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=369086

Nice bike. Are you sure you arent' too tall for that bike?

RIRview 03-24-14 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TexMac (Post 16606203)
Nice bike. Are you sure you arent' too tall for that bike?

I took that pic of myself standing in front of a floor-to-ceiling mirror, and I think it distorted the perspective. I'm 6'02", and the bike is a 58 cm frame--it fits me quite well.

merlinextraligh 03-24-14 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nesdog (Post 16581139)
Last year, I tested a Domane 4.5, as I was looking to replace my Giant OCR2. I was impressed that the Trek was the smoothest bike I'd ever ridden. Unfortunately, crashed my bike a week later and didn't get to continue testing machines for months.

Trek Demo days are running around here now. Two weeks ago, unable to get on the 4, I plopped onto a 6 series, provided by the LBS at a tent on one of our local roads. It only had 23's and was poorly fitted for me. I was surprised at just how harsh it was.

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Dollars to Donuts most of the difference was tire pressure. The 6, with 23c tires were likely pumped up higher, than the tires, likely 25's, on the 4.5.


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