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View Poll Results: 2013 Cannondale Synapse 6-C vs 2014 Giant Defy 1
2013 Cannondale Synapse 6-C 5 35.71%
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Old 03-16-14, 09:12 PM   #1
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2013 Cannondale Synapse 6-C vs 2014 Giant Defy 1

Hey everyone,

This is my first post here but here goes nothing:
I've been mountain biking for ~15 years but I want to buy my first road bike. I'm doing a 200km (100km each day) charity ride in August.

I'm looking at two bikes:
1. 2013 Cannondale Synapse 6-C (Note: The link takes you to the 2014 model but the one that I would get is the 2013 version)
Synapse 6-C BLK | Bowcycle

2. 2014 Giant Defy 1
http://www.ridleys.com/bikes/giant/giant-defy-1-1

I can get the Cannondale for $1050 and Giant for $1400. My budget is $1500.

On a side note, when the weather is nice, I would like to bike to work (~20km/12mi). If it helps, I'm 6' 3", 200 lbs.

For a first time rider, what do you guys recommend?
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Old 03-16-14, 10:17 PM   #2
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The cannondale will give you room in the budget for other stuff. Have you ridden both?

Is this a one time use kind of thing?
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Which one fits? Test ride them both if possible and buy the one that really makes you want to ride the snot out of it. If that's neither, then buy the cheapest one. They're both good bikes.
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I'd get a bicycle with Shimano 105 or better, anything less is intolerable.
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I rode both of them today.

Hmm I'd like to get into riding to work on a regular basis (when it's warm out) and I would love to do longer rides around town as well. So hopefully I really get into this and it's not a one time thing.
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Which one fits?
The Giant fit better and I felt more comfortable on it.
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I'd get a bicycle with Shimano 105 or better, anything less is intolerable.
So you're referring to the Giant, correct?
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Well there you have it.

Keeping in mind that a ride around the parking lot won't really tell you anything, go with fit.
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the giant does have better components but I like the cannondale more.

w/$300 left over you can get all your accessories, ie: helmet, seatbag/tools, rear light, pump, gloves, water bottles, bibs...
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but I like the cannondale more.
How come?
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w/$300 left over you can get all your accessories, ie: helmet, seatbag/tools, rear light, pump, gloves, water bottles, bibs...
Would all the stuff you mentioned cost around $300? Is that an average price?
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Would all the stuff you mentioned cost around $300? Is that an average price?
helmet $50
jersey $40
shorts $40
seatbag $20
multitool, tube, patches $30
rear blinky $15
pump $20
gloves $20
camelbak bottles (2) $25.

Yeah, pretty much, if you shop carefully.
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so just personal preference, I like cannondale more than giant as a general rule, no quantitative reasoning behind it.

well depending on what your needs are a headlight can cost over $300 alone. If you will be riding alot at night it may be justified.

I do not ride at night, I only have a rear red blinky and a clear front flasher jic it gets dark before the rain hits. total cost $12 ebay.

again you can spend big cash on anything but my cages and bottles were about $15 a set

my helmet a bell furio was around $45

seatbag approx $20

tools, small vice grips, metric allen keys, small phillips screw driver, tire levers, patch kit, ????$40????

a few extra tubes at $8 each

gloves $10 - $20 (nashbar)

My pumps were $100 each (lezyne) but you can get a cheaper one. alot of people swear by the topeak road morph $50

Bibs and jeresys I get from Nasbar usually on sale.

Im around 200-225 before clothing.

Maybe you want clipless pedals and shoes (I highly recommend) thats another $150 (in my case) but it can be considerably less depending on what you get.

either way it would be smart to get these items eventually no matter what bike you buy. $300 would give you a good start for sure.
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Great, thanks for all the details guys. Really appreciate it.

I'm going to sleep on it but I'm really leaning towards the Giant. It just felt better for me and similar to you, I don't have any quantitative reasoning behind it either.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy either bike but worst case scenario is I can buy the Giant and sell it next year if I really hate it. You think I can get $900 next year (worth $1400 today) assuming the Giant's in good condition and all if I decide to sell it?
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Go with the Giant if it fits better. It has better components and you won't think about the price difference in a couple of months.
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Great, thanks for all the details guys. Really appreciate it.

I'm going to sleep on it but I'm really leaning towards the Giant. It just felt better for me and similar to you, I don't have any quantitative reasoning behind it either.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy either bike but worst case scenario is I can buy the Giant and sell it next year if I really hate it. You think I can get $900 next year (worth $1400 today) assuming the Giant's in good condition and all if I decide to sell it?
It definitely looks better.
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I have the Defy 1 and love it! Really smooth with the 105 group and rides nice.
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I'd get a bicycle with Shimano 105 or better, anything less is intolerable.
Maybe for you....not for all of us. These blanket statements, which are not all all helpful, and often unfounded, have become the norm here in BF. Do you have any concrete numbers with which to back this up? The new Tiagra works quite nicely.
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Maybe for you....not for all of us. These blanket statements, which are not all all helpful, and often unfounded, have become the norm here in BF. Do you have any concrete numbers with which to back this up? The new Tiagra works quite nicely.
The big differences are significantly easier downshifting (easier gear), as in gear selection requires less precision on lever throw; you don't have cables flopping in your face when in the drops. It also looks terrible compared every other group-set.
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The big differences are significantly easier downshifting (easier gear), as in gear selection requires less precision on lever throw; you don't have cables flopping in your face when in the drops. It also looks terrible compared every other group-set.
Not that I have found...of course, you did not put any of this in your first post...just a snide, uninformative comment. I have ridden the new Tiagra and have found it to be quite responsive and precise with no downshifting issues or issues when shifting under load. I will agree that the exposed cables do not look as good, but flopping around in your face when in the drops is more than a bit exaggerated.

For a first road bike, Tiagra will be more than fine.
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Maybe for you....not for all of us. These blanket statements, which are not all all helpful, and often unfounded, have become the norm here in BF. Do you have any concrete numbers with which to back this up? The new Tiagra works quite nicely.
Why does this bs about flopping cables always come up? I have a bike with 5700 105 and another with 4600 tiagra. Yes, the 105 feels crisper..but it doesn't shift any better or more accurate then tiagra.
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My C'Dale came with a Tiagra FD and the shifting was slow and imprecise.
I put an Ultegra 6700 FD on it, and there is a significant improvement in shifting.
No experience with Tiagra RD.

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I have a 2013 Cannondale Synapse 7 with Sora components and I really love the bike and the shifting. I don't really care for the thumb shifters. They work fine just sometimes inconvenient because you have to be on the hoods.
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Why does this bs about flopping cables always come up?
Because it is too ugly to own.
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