Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 46
  1. #1
    Senior Member Avispa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    EU
    My Bikes
    Ax Lighntess Vial EVO D (+ Paduano Fidia)
    Posts
    182
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Fast bikes, have you been experiencing one?

    Have you experienced that you test ride a bike, a bike that is, or feels much faster than what you've been riding before?
    If you have, what did you conclude was different with this bike compared to the others you've been riding?

    Please level on your findings!

    Thanks
    /R

  2. #2
    Thread Killer
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Posts
    4,402
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I was thinking of something simillar yesterday, about the road bikes I own. I have one that is definitely slower than another. Even when ai think I'm going pretty well on the 'slower' bike, my Strava nubers tell a different story.

    I think the reason is that more aggressive positioning on the 'faster' bike yields aero advantages that translates to more speed.

    New bikes, though, always feel faster because they're new and exciting.
    Chaad--'95 DeKerf Team SL, '02 Lemond Buenos Aires, '05 Novara Buzz, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '06 Mountain Cycle Rumble, '09 Dahon Mariner D7, '12 Mercier Nano, '12 Breezer Venturi

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    1,037
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Been test riding quite a few bikes recently and the fastest feeling one to date I think is probably the Bianchi sempre pro. If I had to take a guess at why it would be the absolutely giant BB area it had compared to all the other bikes I've tried.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Cherry Hill, NJ
    My Bikes
    2011 CAAD 10 4
    Posts
    262
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think it comes down to geometry. I test rode four bikes before buying mine, and the CAAD 10 just felt way more responsive than the other bikes. I only did a mile or so on each bike, so it didn't take long to notice the difference.

  5. #5
    I got 99 problems.... thump55's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
    Posts
    1,930
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Fast bikes, have you been experiencing one?

    If by "fast" you mean terrible, and by "bikes" you mean rash, then yes.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Avispa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    EU
    My Bikes
    Ax Lighntess Vial EVO D (+ Paduano Fidia)
    Posts
    182
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by thump55 View Post
    Fast bikes, have you been experiencing one?

    If by "fast" you mean terrible, and by "bikes" you mean rash, then yes.
    No, not really. I ment what i wrote nothing less and nothing more.

    A bike that runs like hell (in a not so good way) on wheels might feel faster, as a bike that is real stable might feel slower.

  7. #7
    Senior Member fa63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    My Bikes
    Zanconato Road, Seven Elium
    Posts
    1,416
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dheorl View Post
    Been test riding quite a few bikes recently and the fastest feeling one to date I think is probably the Bianchi sempre pro. If I had to take a guess at why it would be the absolutely giant BB area it had compared to all the other bikes I've tried.
    I doubt it is the BB; it is probably your position on that bike.
    "Don’t argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".


  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    1,037
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by fa63 View Post
    I doubt it is the BB; it is probably your position on that bike.
    I matched my position close enough to a different bike that I rode in the same store and the Sempre definitely felt faster. Top end cruising speed probably wasn't much different but that's not the type of speed you feel the most. Differences in acceleration are more noticeable and this bike launched like nothing else I've tried so far when you stomped on the pedals. Only thing I can put that down to is drive chain stiffness and looking at the tubes around the bottom bracket they were huge.

  9. #9
    pan y agua merlinextraligh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Jacksonville
    My Bikes
    Wilier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Co-Motion Robusta; Schwinn Paramount; Motobecane Phantom Cross; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er
    Posts
    27,416
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Placebo effect:

    The placebo effect refers to the phenomenon in which some people experience some type of benefit after the administration of a placebo. A placebo is a substance with no known medical effects, such as sterile water, saline solution or a sugar pill. In short, a placebo is a fake treatment that in some cases can produce a very real response. The expectations of the patient play an important role in the placebo effect; the more a person expects the treatment to work, the more likely they are to exhibit a placebo response
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

  10. #10
    Long Distance Cyclist Machka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I ride where the thylacine roamed!
    My Bikes
    Lots
    Posts
    39,901
    Mentioned
    42 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The only time any bicycle feels fast to me is when I'm riding downhill with a tailwind.

  11. #11
    Senior Member Dave Cutter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    in my recliner
    Posts
    1,985
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My light-weight wheels (mostly lighter tires) made for a noticeably... faster to accelerate bicycle. My lighter bicycles are only very slightly (marginally) faster on a normal 20 mile ride (mostly the slightly faster speed is gained on hills... I believe).

  12. #12
    Senior Member gc3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    DC
    My Bikes
    Now I Got Two
    Posts
    2,827
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Avispa View Post
    No, not really. I ment what i wrote nothing less and nothing more.

    A bike that runs like hell (in a not so good way) on wheels might feel faster, as a bike that is real stable might feel slower.
    The more the bike costs, the faster it goes...stability is for scaredy-pants...
    "I tried being reasonable, I didn‘t like it."

    "I understand. I just don't care"

  13. #13
    Professional Fuss-Budget Bacciagalupe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    6,384
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Certain bikes might feel faster without actually being faster.

    For example, a bike with a short wheelbase will have a smaller turn circle, which in turn makes the bike feel more responsive. This will give the impression that it's faster, but actually has nothing to do with the efficiency of the bike.

    Similarly, a bike with aero wheels may be a pound or so heavier than one with lightweight box rims, but will in fact be faster in almost all circumstances. It won't feel faster but will be faster.

  14. #14
    Senior Member pgjackson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Gulf Breeze, FL
    My Bikes
    Rossetti Vertigo
    Posts
    3,846
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Placebo effect:

    The placebo effect refers to the phenomenon in which some people experience some type of benefit after the administration of a placebo. A placebo is a substance with no known medical effects, such as sterile water, saline solution or a sugar pill. In short, a placebo is a fake treatment that in some cases can produce a very real response. The expectations of the patient play an important role in the placebo effect; the more a person expects the treatment to work, the more likely they are to exhibit a placebo response
    Exactly.

    Remember getting a new pair of "tennis shoes" as a kid, trying them on and running around the store thinking "these are really fast"? Same thing.
    "These are questions for wise men with skinny arms." - Khal Drogo
    2011 Rossetti Vertigo w/ SRAM Rival 16.1lbs

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    SF Bay Area
    My Bikes
    Bianchi Infinito (Celeste, of course)
    Posts
    1,458
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Frame stiffness, bike/wheel weight, and BB/hub maintenance can make a dramatic difference in how "fast" a bike is. Mainly when going from a bike that performs poorly in one category to a high end bike that performs well in all categories.

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    50
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Every new bike I ride that looks cooler and is more expensive is always faster.... until I hook up my garmin

  17. #17
    Senior Member Bathwater's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    In my car with my Garmin, stealing all your Strava KOMs
    Posts
    182
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by thump55 View Post
    Fast bikes, have you been experiencing one?

    If by "fast" you mean terrible, and by "bikes" you mean rash, then yes.
    I, too, have been to Singapore.
    Axe Murderer

  18. #18
    Senior Member roadwarrior's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Galt Gulch
    My Bikes
    Cannondale Super Six High Mod, Evo, Sram Red, CAAD9 Rival
    Posts
    10,048
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Placebo effect:

    The placebo effect refers to the phenomenon in which some people experience some type of benefit after the administration of a placebo. A placebo is a substance with no known medical effects, such as sterile water, saline solution or a sugar pill. In short, a placebo is a fake treatment that in some cases can produce a very real response. The expectations of the patient play an important role in the placebo effect; the more a person expects the treatment to work, the more likely they are to exhibit a placebo response
    Nah...shops put little tiny motors in the bikes. And let a little air out of the tires to make them more comfortable.

    Works every time.
    "Nothing is so typical of middling minds than to harp on the intellectual deficiencies of the slightly less smart, but considerably more successful."
    Bret Stephens, WSJ

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    484
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think something many forget is power to weight ratio. Now...I'm talking extremes here but the first time I got on a nimble, sub 20lb road bike vs the heavy, 30+lb comfort bike I had been riding...the thing took off like a rocket when I put some ass into it.

    I know the saying of "there are no fast bikes, only fast riders...but that's like saying there are no fast cars, only fast engines.

    Putting the hammer down on a 17lb bike with a racing geometry putting you in position for maximum power transfer vs a 36lb comfort bike with an upright position nets a completely different " feel". A lightweight bike takes off like a rocket when you're not used to one...

  20. #20
    Senior Member OldsCOOL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    northern michigan
    My Bikes
    '88 Cannondale Criterium, Trek Pro Series
    Posts
    5,834
    Mentioned
    17 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post

    New bikes, though, always feel faster because they're new and exciting.
    And red.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

    '85 Trek 460 road racer

    '89 Raleigh Technium PRE

    '79 Motobecane Super Mirage

  21. #21
    More Speed = More Work
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    My Bikes
    Wilier Zero7, Litespeed Tuscany, Santa Cruz Superlight
    Posts
    79
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes, Litespeed to Wilier (Wilier is faster), probably because:

    1. Wilier is lighter
    2. It's also more stiff, especially in the BB area. Regardless of your beliefs on whether stiff frames transfer power better than less stiff frames (and I do believe it), the stiffer frame responds faster
    3. And finally, it fits me a bit better. The reach on the Littespeed was always just a bit too short


    Cheers

  22. #22
    Cat 5 field stuffer bbeasley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Hammond, La
    My Bikes
    Wabi Lightning RE, Wabi Classic
    Posts
    1,420
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My Wabi Re is much faster than my Trek. The Wabi is red.

  23. #23
    I'm doing it wrong. RJM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    My Bikes
    Rivendell Roadeo, Rivendell Sam Hillborne, Trek Fuel Ex 9
    Posts
    3,414
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Orange is faster than red.


    There was a recent study done....government funded and all.
    "...this place is to trolling as salt licks are to deer hunting." - 3alarmer

  24. #24
    Senior Member RPK79's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    SE MN
    My Bikes
    Fuji Roubaix Pro
    Posts
    4,168
    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My new bike is way faster than my old one. At least on the trainer it is. We'll see once I take it out on the road and actually track the speed.

  25. #25
    Senior Member pgjackson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Gulf Breeze, FL
    My Bikes
    Rossetti Vertigo
    Posts
    3,846
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Smokehouse View Post
    I think something many forget is power to weight ratio. Now...I'm talking extremes here but the first time I got on a nimble, sub 20lb road bike vs the heavy, 30+lb comfort bike I had been riding...the thing took off like a rocket when I put some ass into it.

    I know the saying of "there are no fast bikes, only fast riders...but that's like saying there are no fast cars, only fast engines.

    Putting the hammer down on a 17lb bike with a racing geometry putting you in position for maximum power transfer vs a 36lb comfort bike with an upright position nets a completely different " feel". A lightweight bike takes off like a rocket when you're not used to one...
    I bet Eddie Merxx riding an old 30lb steel bike from back in the day would smoke anyone on this forum riding a modern top of the line super-bike.
    "These are questions for wise men with skinny arms." - Khal Drogo
    2011 Rossetti Vertigo w/ SRAM Rival 16.1lbs

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •