Early Carbon Machine (LOOK KG86 and LOOK KG381)
03-17-14, 01:34 PM
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Early Carbon Machine (LOOK KG86 and LOOK KG381)
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As a part of my commuter bike / training bike, I am thinking of two possible bikes, both of which are same price. Between these two bikes, I am looking for a bike for commuting and possibly for racing in regional competitions. Which one would you recommend?
One is relatively recent 2003 LOOK KG 381 with specs as following,
Frame/Fork: LOOK KG 381 56 cm "L. Jalabert" Signature Edition
H-bar: Cinelli RAM - 1 piece carbon bar/stem CTC 42cm, drop 130mm, reach 90mm stem length 120mm
Tape: Fizik silver tape - have found nothing better to stay clean
Seatpost: LOOK TI - Adjustable setback position
Saddle: Selle Italia SLR
Cranks: FSA Carbon Octalink- English
Chainrings: FSA 7075-T6 130 BCD 53/39
RD: Shimano Ultegra 6500 9 spd
CASS: CS-6500 12-27 19 spd
FD: Shimano Ultegra 6500 9 spd
SHIFTERS: Shimano Ultegra ST-6510 9spd
BRAKES: Mavic
Wheels: MAVIC Ksyrium
TIRES: Hutchinson Fusion Comp 700x23 NEW!
WEIGHT: 17 lbs 9 oz.
The other bike is the first carbon model ridden in TDF. The same exact model was ridden by Lemond in mountain stage I believe. The specs are,
Frame Model: KG86 Hinault Edition (frame was NOS when I purchased it. The steerer hadn't even been cut.)
Frame Size: 56cm
Serial Number: I56G34 A8
7-Speed Drivetrain
Rear Derailleur: Mavic 841
Front Derailleur: Mavic 860
Shifters: Mavic Downtube
Crankset: Stronglight Delta (53-39)
Pedals: Avocet with Campagnolo Toe Clips
Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo Italian threaded
Handbuilt Wheelset
Hubs: Mavic 500RD
Rims: Mavic Open Pro 32h
Spokes: DT Swiss
Tires: Continental GP4000S - 700x23mm
Other
Brake Levers: Mavic 440 SSC
Calipers: Mavic 440 SSC? dual pivot brake calipers. (Recessed)
WEIGHT: 19lb 3oz
As a part of my commuter bike / training bike, I am thinking of two possible bikes, both of which are same price. Between these two bikes, I am looking for a bike for commuting and possibly for racing in regional competitions. Which one would you recommend?
One is relatively recent 2003 LOOK KG 381 with specs as following,
Frame/Fork: LOOK KG 381 56 cm "L. Jalabert" Signature Edition
H-bar: Cinelli RAM - 1 piece carbon bar/stem CTC 42cm, drop 130mm, reach 90mm stem length 120mm
Tape: Fizik silver tape - have found nothing better to stay clean
Seatpost: LOOK TI - Adjustable setback position
Saddle: Selle Italia SLR
Cranks: FSA Carbon Octalink- English
Chainrings: FSA 7075-T6 130 BCD 53/39
RD: Shimano Ultegra 6500 9 spd
CASS: CS-6500 12-27 19 spd
FD: Shimano Ultegra 6500 9 spd
SHIFTERS: Shimano Ultegra ST-6510 9spd
BRAKES: Mavic
Wheels: MAVIC Ksyrium
TIRES: Hutchinson Fusion Comp 700x23 NEW!
WEIGHT: 17 lbs 9 oz.
The other bike is the first carbon model ridden in TDF. The same exact model was ridden by Lemond in mountain stage I believe. The specs are,
Frame Model: KG86 Hinault Edition (frame was NOS when I purchased it. The steerer hadn't even been cut.)
Frame Size: 56cm
Serial Number: I56G34 A8
7-Speed Drivetrain
Rear Derailleur: Mavic 841
Front Derailleur: Mavic 860
Shifters: Mavic Downtube
Crankset: Stronglight Delta (53-39)
Pedals: Avocet with Campagnolo Toe Clips
Bottom Bracket: Campagnolo Italian threaded
Handbuilt Wheelset
Hubs: Mavic 500RD
Rims: Mavic Open Pro 32h
Spokes: DT Swiss
Tires: Continental GP4000S - 700x23mm
Other
Brake Levers: Mavic 440 SSC
Calipers: Mavic 440 SSC? dual pivot brake calipers. (Recessed)
WEIGHT: 19lb 3oz
Last edited by dearbwjang; 03-17-14 at 01:37 PM.
03-17-14, 01:57 PM
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Those are the same price?!
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The first one. Neither is much of a commuter. The first one is very much race-ready and has pretty nice parts (great wheels). The second one might have some 'vintage' value, but I wouldn't factor that in given your intended usage. This choice is a no-brainer IMO.
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03-17-14, 05:18 PM
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No doubt.
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That first one is a great looking bike! A complete no-brainer. The 2nd one is only the same price because someone thinks the fact that it was the first type of carbon framed bike in the Tour is somehow a selling point (and to someone, it may well be). For a bike you intend to ride daily and race, the KG381 is perfect (assuming it is in good shape).
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