Pros and Cons of Aero Bikes (vs. Road Bikes)
04-06-14, 11:22 AM
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Oh whatever. The advantage is allegedly 1.1 minute in a 4 hour time trial for the favored frame in the Cervelo test, a 0.4% difference in speed. Half of the "aero" frames tested were on par with the non-aero frames. Those results tell me the alleged benefits are not statistically significant.
04-06-14, 11:42 AM
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I wonder what the big manufacturers are working on right now for the 2015 models that will make them so much better than this year's 2014 models. I mean, every year they tell us the new frames are significantly better and faster. Pretty soon you will barely have to pedal to average 25mph. Remarkable engineering going on in cycling.
04-06-14, 11:53 AM
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I wonder what the big manufacturers are working on right now for the 2015 models that will make them so much better than this year's 2014 models. I mean, every year they tell us the new frames are significantly better and faster. Pretty soon you will barely have to pedal to average 25mph. Remarkable engineering going on in cycling.
04-06-14, 01:17 PM
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I wonder what the big manufacturers are working on right now for the 2015 models that will make them so much better than this year's 2014 models. I mean, every year they tell us the new frames are significantly better and faster. Pretty soon you will barely have to pedal to average 25mph. Remarkable engineering going on in cycling.
04-06-14, 01:30 PM
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Oh whatever. The advantage is allegedly 1.1 minute in a 4 hour time trial for the favored frame in the Cervelo test, a 0.4% difference in speed. Half of the "aero" frames tested were on par with the non-aero frames. Those results tell me the alleged benefits are not statistically significant.
Those data may say many things. They may say the differences are small, they may say some frame designers aren't very good at their job, they may say you really don't care about the drag from your equipment. One thing they definitely don't say is anything about their statistical significance.
04-06-14, 01:41 PM
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this thread is boring, almost as boring as this post
you're all too damn slow to care about this crap. im faster than nearly all of you (all of you?) and i dont care about this crap
you're all too damn slow to care about this crap. im faster than nearly all of you (all of you?) and i dont care about this crap
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^
replace "thread" above with: "subforum"
peace
EDIT: well that may have been a little harsh, but I'm hungry! (read: hangry). There are some users in the 41 that contribute useful, meaningful content that I respect.
But I still assert that this thread sucks! Aero frames aren't even worth the energy it takes to acknowledge them IMO. That's not to say I wouldn't purchase one, for the right price, I just wouldn't pay attention or give credence to the fact that it was "aero."
replace "thread" above with: "subforum"
peace
EDIT: well that may have been a little harsh, but I'm hungry! (read: hangry). There are some users in the 41 that contribute useful, meaningful content that I respect.
But I still assert that this thread sucks! Aero frames aren't even worth the energy it takes to acknowledge them IMO. That's not to say I wouldn't purchase one, for the right price, I just wouldn't pay attention or give credence to the fact that it was "aero."
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warp speed.
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04-06-14, 04:32 PM
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Scratch that, my training was great this pre-season, im gonna go with 1.3xWarp Speed
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04-06-14, 04:44 PM
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No silly, I ride a bike near sea level just like the rest of us. The only difference is, like few, I travel greater than or equal to warp speed.
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Damnit! I knew it seemed too good to be true...
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Pros: for the average rider (ie: most of us)....none, other than bling factor.
Cons: Market hype with no appreciable benefit for normal humans (ie: most of us).
Cons: Market hype with no appreciable benefit for normal humans (ie: most of us).
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That word you use, I don't think it means what you think it means.
Those data may say many things. They may say the differences are small, they may say some frame designers aren't very good at their job, they may say you really don't care about the drag from your equipment. One thing they definitely don't say is anything about their statistical significance.
Those data may say many things. They may say the differences are small, they may say some frame designers aren't very good at their job, they may say you really don't care about the drag from your equipment. One thing they definitely don't say is anything about their statistical significance.
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There's plenty of data that states how large or small the benefits are, and if those matter to you, great...I don't see why somebody who only puts out 200w shouldn't care about 3w more.
I can tell the aero difference between my helmets using a powermeter and GC's Aerolab. It's consistent, and measurable, and I'm not anywhere near pro. It matters to me because I'm trying to optimize a system for optimizations sake. Obviously bike frame tubing shapes are less important than the helmet, but it's still a part of the puzzle.
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The outward curvature of my belly makes me more aero. If it were flat, it would create more drag. That's my story and I'm sticking to it even if you say I'm too fat for this sport.
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04-07-14, 08:33 AM
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That could work, but I think you would need to balance it with an equally sized ass. You need a smooth transition to the trailing end, too. Kind of like 23mm tires on a 23mm rim.
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Wouldn't a bigger ass be better? Start with the head, then wider shoulders, followed by belly and finally a huge ass. Seems like the perfect shape
