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Dual Profile - tubular/clincher wheels - worth it or not?

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Old 04-11-14, 10:02 AM
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Dual Profile - tubular/clincher wheels - worth it or not?

After hearing all of the raves of how wonderful the ride is on tubular tires I wanna give it a try. A lightly used set of Campy Eurus G3s popped up on craigslist today. These are clincher/tubular, dual profile wheels. They take clincher or tubular tires. This got me thinking, do you lose any of the wonderful feel on this type of wheel? Will they give me that same tubular feel that I'm looking for or should I hold out for a true set of tubular wheels?

Also, assuming they are truly "lightly" used is $500 in the ballpark for this wheelset?

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I think you're confused about the dual fit. I believe you can run these wheels tubeless or with tubes, but either way you're using clincher tires.

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You are correct, I am confused. I didn't know there was such a thing as tubeless clinchers. I believe I've heard the term but thought it was the same as tubulars.

So now my question becomes what is the advantage of tubeless clinchers? I'll research that one myself, but if anyone wants to offer opinions here, feel free.

Thanks, merlin, for the info and link. Incidentally, my Merlin is the one I'm looking to outfit with new wheels.

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Originally Posted by MikeM21
You are correct, I am confused. I didn't know there was such a thing as tubeless clinchers. I believe I've heard the term but thought it was the same as tubulars.

So now my question becomes what is the advantage of tubeless clinchers? I'll research that one myself, but if anyone wants to offer opinions here, feel free.

Thanks, merlin, for the info and link. Incidentally, my Merlin is the one I'm looking to outfit with new wheels.

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Careful their. This could get messy. Best view the past carnage (i.e. search old threads) before asking.
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Hey Mike, as someone who has made the switch to tubless recently I'd throw this out there. The big advantages of a tubeless setup are:

A) No pinch-flats
B) Since pinch-flats aren't possible one can run lower pressures resulting in increased comfort.
C) The use of sealant allows for the setup to be more resistant to small punctures (depending on how much pressure is lost before the sealant can work you might need to stop and top off the tire) Note that not all rim/tire combos require sealant.

The downsides:
A) expense. a good pair of tubeless tires run $120+, valves are $15 and sealant is also $15
B) should a tire get damaged so severely that the sealant can't plug the leak you have to deal with installing a traditional inner tube in a tire that is full of sticky, messy sealant
C) the sealant does eventually dry out and you'll need to pour in some more periodically

Some people complain about difficulty of setup, but IMHO it's just different. If you don't have access to an air compressor be prepared to burn through a few CO2 carts.

Good luck!
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Thanks, thermal good info.

canam, doesn't just about EVERYTHING get messy around here eventually?? I have found some old threads and have been perusing them today. I think at this point it makes sense to wait and find a good deal on a tubular wheelset. I'll just keep riding my clinchers in the meantime.
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I rode with a guy who ran tubeless and flatted on a gravel road. It took him 30 minutes to clean out the gravel and old sealant (no paper towel or cleaning device), put the spare tube in, and fix it. now I give him a hard time saying I won't wait for him if he flats and is running tubeless.

also, he mentioned that the Stan's sealant that he was using on his shimano rims was actually corroding the rims, so check on that if you're running tubeless.

I'm sure the ride quality is really nice with tubeless, but i'd rather stay with clinchers or try a cheaper tubular wheel.
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So now my question becomes what is the advantage of tubeless clinchers? I'll research that one myself, but if anyone wants to offer opinions here, feel free.
Mike
You can go to the trouble and extra expense of doing tubeless so you can drop the pressure a little and get a more comfy ride.

Or.

You can increase your tire size by a few mm. I use a 28mm on the rear at 70psi.
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