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    Mr. Dopolina Bob Dopolina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianinkc View Post
    I see what you're saying but I don't think the lighting helps that one, or the blue one for that matter.
    That's partially true but it does hi light my point.

    Spend some time with Photoshop and use some lighter greys to give dimension before you pull the trigger on another sprayer. Include the group set.
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    Actually, I have another question.

    Instead of using a solid, single colour on the frame have you considered using a second orange colour to highlight the interesting contours of the frame?

    Single colours make sense on round steel tubes but with all the shapes found on a carbon frame there are a lot of interesting possibilities to experiment with contours, light and shape.

    I could see a lighter orange in small qty on different parts of the frame that would really play with the shapes already there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
    Actually, I have another question.

    Instead of using a solid, single colour on the frame have you considered using a second orange colour to highlight the interesting contours of the frame?

    Single colours make sense on round steel tubes but with all the shapes found on a carbon frame there are a lot of interesting possibilities to experiment with contours, light and shape.

    I could see a lighter orange in small qty on different parts of the frame that would really play with the shapes already there.
    I was thinking of something similar but I have a buddy with a two tone orange Klein and didn't want to copy too much.
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    Interesting. I think some black pinstriping (with maybe some smaller white pinstripes) on the frame would could up the all orange and give some accents to the cool curvature of the frame. Probably be a huge pain in the ass to get it just right, but I think it'd really make it pop. I agree that the logos were a bit over the top on the original.
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    Great project so far! I'm in the middle of a similar project.
    Couple questions to the OP.
    1. Did you spray in any type of controlled environment, booth/prep-station? How bad were the nibs? Did it really need cut/buff or are you just particular? 2. What were your concerns with Spesh, I know they are sticklers with regards to their copyrights, but not sure if that is what you were referring to.


    Keep us posted I'm excited to see more custom paint jobs on bikes.

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    additional question for OP. what is "adhesion promoter"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENZ28 View Post
    Great project so far! I'm in the middle of a similar project.
    Couple questions to the OP.
    1. Did you spray in any type of controlled environment, booth/prep-station? How bad were the nibs? Did it really need cut/buff or are you just particular? 2. What were your concerns with Spesh, I know they are sticklers with regards to their copyrights, but not sure if that is what you were referring to.

    Keep us posted I'm excited to see more custom paint jobs on bikes.
    Paint booth, not so much nibs just really picky and love the wet look. I don't like the way they push around the little guy, products are awesome though.

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    additional question for OP. what is "adhesion promoter"?
    It's a clear liquid that you spray on for better adhesion, mainly used on bumpers so the paint does not flake off when the bumper flexes.



    Little update still waiting on PRO stem so I painted a Zipp service course stem and the PRO seatpost, looks great the stem is a bit short but it will work for now until my order shows up from Ribble. No pics till tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianinkc View Post
    I was thinking of something similar but I have a buddy with a two tone orange Klein and didn't want to copy too much.
    What about using the some colour but in a gloss (as you already have) and accenting with the same colour but matte? You could do some funky stuff with the tubing shapes.
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    Was watching the Amstel Gold and CCC Polsat continental team is on orange/black Guerciotti bikes. Maybe a little busy with the black accents but with the orange team kit too it was a little much overall for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
    What about using the some colour but in a gloss (as you already have) and accenting with the same colour but matte? You could do some funky stuff with the tubing shapes.
    Thanks for all the suggestions decided to leave it like it is for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by scott967 View Post
    Was watching the Amstel Gold and CCC Polsat continental team is on orange/black Guerciotti bikes. Maybe a little busy with the black accents but with the orange team kit too it was a little much overall for me.

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    I dig what you're doing.

    I debadged/dezertz-logoed mine. Mostly covered up with 3M 680C reflective tape. BBQ spray paint for the stem. The added weight of the stickers was offset by the weight of the Zertz logos (15 grams of pot-metal).

    Last edited by BikeAnon; 04-24-14 at 07:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeAnon View Post
    I dig what you're doing.

    I debadged/dezertz-logoed mine. Mostly covered up with 3M 680C reflective tape. BBQ spray paint for the stem. The added weight of the stickers was offset by the weight of the Zertz logos (16 grams of pot-metal).

    Before:



    --with flash--
    Looks good thanks for sharing. I had the same bike before this one.
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    When do you think you'll have it assembled?


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    Sounds like you completely removed the Zertz for the sake of vanity...versus say even repainting them to blend with the frame. To me this is a bad decision on two levels.
    1. you lose the function of them. They do mitigate high frequency road disturbances because they have to by physics.
    2. no Zertz has to look worse than with Zertz inserts.

    Apparently you feel differently.

    Second comment, purely about aesthetics is...not uncommon to cover up the large, garish Specialized logo with tape. But to not have any detail or contrast on the bike aka make it all monochrome to me makes the bike bland.
    Good news is...everything you have done is reversible and at some point you may change your view.

    Quote Originally Posted by BikeAnon View Post
    I dig what you're doing.

    I debadged/dezertz-logoed mine. Mostly covered up with 3M 680C reflective tape. BBQ spray paint for the stem. The added weight of the stickers was offset by the weight of the Zertz logos (16 grams of pot-metal).

    Before:



    --with flash--
    Last edited by Campag4life; 04-24-14 at 05:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    Sounds like you completely removed the Zertz ....
    I removed the Zertz logos. The Zertz poly thingees remain in the frame.

    These just pry out. I was surprised to find that they are metal, and not plastic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    [Zertz] mitigate high frequency road disturbances because they have to by physics....
    Zertz has a lot more to do with THIS, than THIS.


    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    ....Good news is...everything you have done is reversible and at some point you may change your view.
    That was a part of my decision process. The 3M tape claims a seven year exterior life, with the ability to remove with no residue.

    My mono-chrome look all started because I couldn't stand the graphics of the FSA cranks, but didn't have the bravery/skill that Adrianinkc showed, when he brought out the sandpaper for his FSAs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianinkc View Post
    The zertz inserts, along with the seat post collar and groupset will provide the right amount of subtle contrast on this custom paint job. Excited to see it finally completed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeAnon View Post
    I removed the Zertz logos. The Zertz poly thingees remain in the frame.



    These just pry out. I was surprised to find that they are metal, and not plastic.



    Zertz has a lot more to do with THIS, than THIS.


    That was a part of my decision process. The 3M tape claims a seven year exterior life, with the ability to remove with no residue.

    My mono-chrome look all started because I couldn't stand the graphics of the FSA cranks, but didn't have the bravery/skill that Adrianinkc showed, when he brought out the sandpaper for his FSAs!
    Can you explain how the elastomer is held in place if you removed the pot metal frame screwed to the seat stays?
    Do you have a close up of what you did?
    Thanks

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    Campag4life, below is not my pic, but it illustrates what I did. My Zertz are not wrap-around, they are press-fit into openings in the frame. The logo-metal I removed is pressed into the Zerts, using the pins you see in my pic.

    You can flick the logos out (with a bit of work) with the tip of a small screwdriver. It turned out to be less work to press out the entire Zertz, remove logo, press Zertz back in. I then filled the space where the logo was with the 3M reflective tape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by primov8 View Post
    The zertz inserts, along with the seat post collar and groupset will provide the right amount of subtle contrast on this custom paint job. Excited to see it finally completed.
    I agree. Keep the bars & saddle black and it's going to look great.
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    Thanks guys for the comments, I just dropped everything off at the LBS to build, saddle and handlebar are staying black. I'll post pics as soon as I get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrianinkc View Post
    Thanks guys for the comments, I just dropped everything off at the LBS to build, saddle and handlebar are staying black. I'll post pics as soon as I get it.
    If drivers can't see you now... Would have been fun if you added some of that glow in the dark stuff into the paint, then you can shine both during the day and night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymphad View Post
    If drivers can't see you now... Would have been fun if you added some of that glow in the dark stuff into the paint, then you can shine both during the day and night.
    I've never have had good luck with glow in the dark paint, it's better to use a white base and the effect doesn't last.
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