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    Sizing question about 2014 Motobecane Le Champion SL Titanium

    Few details:

    40yr old/male/fit but not interested in very racy geo.

    Cycling Inseam: 33.50 inches with shoes on.
    Your Height: 71.50 inches with shoes on.
    Riding Style: Not into racing , I like comfortable upright position.

    I tried few bikes and found they have 180mm of HT length with effective TT length of 56 cm. I liked this kind of endurance geometry.

    Again, Not into racing, want a comfortable bike with upright position. I am looking into Le Champion Ti and torn between 53 cm Vs 56cm. 53 cm seems bit small and 56cm seems bit large.

    I may pull the trigger on one of the size and in the worst case, may return if I don't like the fit.

    I am looking for a comfortable TI road bike.

    The 56 cm Specialized Roubaix with 56 cm effective TT fits me good and Devinci Leo with size 57cm/L with 56cm ETT fits me good. I like them because of their upright and comfortable but looking for a Titanium bike.

    53cm Ti seems to be to small and 56 cm seems to be bit big but leaning more towards 56cm as I want comfortable geometry.

    Thanks

    DD




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    Last edited by dd123; 05-19-14 at 11:04 AM.

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    Anyone ?

    Thanks a lot

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    Fit means more then anything else.

    Ride what Fits.
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    Could you provide the Moto geometry. You gave all the measurements for the stuff you are not going to buy but left out the one you are interested in.
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    geo chart

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ti-xiv-geo.jpg

    The marketing selling jargin:

    Sizing Tip: These Le Champion Titanium bikes have a semi-sloping top tube / semi-compact geometry similar to the Trek Pilot or Specialized Roubaix which have higher headtubes for a more upright position with a bit lower standover height.


    Cycling inseam is generally without shoes. I have used the competitive fit calculator to successfully fit myself on 3 frames:

    Bike Fit Calculator | Find Your Bike Size | Competitive Cyclist

    Might not be perfect but it gets you close. Effective top tube is the key measurement
    http://www.pedalroom.com/members/rms13

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    It looks like the seat tube measurement is real, not effective. So the 53 likely is more like a 56 nominal size. But then the top tubes are a little short if that is the case. Tough call.
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    You'll have to find out what the stem length is on the 3 bikes as well in addition to ETT.

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    I'm also 33 inseam with shoes. I ordered a 53 size which is essentially a 56 and it fits great. In fact, the 100mm stem it comes with was too long. I felt slightly stretched. I had to replace it with a 90mm stem and replace the offset seat post to a non-offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowbob View Post
    I'm also 33 inseam with shoes. I ordered a 53 size which is essentially a 56 and it fits great. In fact, the 100mm stem it comes with was too long. I felt slightly stretched. I had to replace it with a 90mm stem and replace the offset seat post to a non-offset.
    Thanks All for the reply. Apologies for leaving behind the geo URL, my mistake..

    @mellowbob: Looks like I may go for 53 size but I was was expecting for a more upright geo. Wondering if you can shed some lights about the geo. Upright enough with all the spacers ?

    Also, what is your height ?

    Also, I have been riding a 54 cm Felt Z85: http://2012.feltracing.com/USA/2012/...eries/Z85.aspx
    It fits me good but a tiny bit small. Looking at my experience at 54cm Felt Z85, I think a 53cm Moto Ti may fit good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowbob View Post
    I'm also 33 inseam with shoes. I ordered a 53 size which is essentially a 56 and it fits great. In fact, the 100mm stem it comes with was too long. I felt slightly stretched. I had to replace it with a 90mm stem and replace the offset seat post to a non-offset.
    Is that a perfect fit? I thought 100-120mm was preferred stem for a road bike for handling to maintain proper handling characteristics etc. If you have to go to a 90mm stem maybe it doesn't fit. But perfect fit is hard to achieve
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    Quote Originally Posted by dd123 View Post
    Thanks All for the reply. Apologies for leaving behind the geo URL, my mistake..

    @mellowbob: Looks like I may go for 53 size but I was was expecting for a more upright geo. Wondering if you can shed some lights about the geo. Upright enough with all the spacers ?

    Also, what is your height ?

    Also, I have been riding a 54 cm Felt Z85: Z85 - Felt Bicycles
    It fits me good but a tiny bit small. Looking at my experience at 54cm Felt Z85, I think a 53cm Moto Ti may fit good.
    I removed most of the spacers to get a little more aggressive position but stock, it's pretty relaxed. Everyone is built differently and have different preferences. Don't take my word for it and go get a bike fit.
    My height is 5' 11.5".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    Is that a perfect fit? I thought 100-120mm was preferred stem for a road bike for handling to maintain proper handling characteristics etc. If you have to go to a 90mm stem maybe it doesn't fit. But perfect fit is hard to achieve
    I'm sure it's a perfect fit on paper but I'm just not used to feeling that slight bit of stretching. It's just a personal preference. Maybe I'll put that 100mm back on and give it a couple of months to see if I can get used to it.

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    Just wanted to point out don't overlook Head Tube length in addition to the top tube length. The 56 Roubaix has a tall 190mm head tube ; the Devinci Leo 57 has a 180 head tube. The Motobecane 56 is 165 mm; the 53 is 150mm - that's 4cm shorter than the Roubaix you liked the fit of! With the 150mm head tube on the 53 you may have a challenge getting the bars high enough to achieve a more upright position without pushing the limits of a safe amount of spacers on the carbon fork steerer tube(usually 3-4cm) and/or resorting to janky stem angle configurations. Just wanted to point that out.

    Quote Originally Posted by dd123 View Post
    Again, Not into racing, want a comfortable bike with upright position

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicHour View Post
    Just wanted to point out don't overlook Head Tube length in addition to the top tube length. The 56 Roubaix has a tall 190mm head tube ; the Devinci Leo 57 has a 180 head tube. The Motobecane 56 is 165 mm; the 53 is 150mm - that's 4cm shorter than the Roubaix you liked the fit of! With the 150mm head tube on the 53 you may have a challenge getting the bars high enough to achieve a more upright position without pushing the limits of a safe amount of spacers on the carbon fork steerer tube(usually 3-4cm) and/or resorting to janky stem angle configurations. Just wanted to point that out.
    Hi MagicHour,
    Good Point hence I asked about uprightness. I am hoping, I'd be able to add atleast couple of cms to the stem so I may be closed to 170mm or so.. I think 56cm may be a bit large for me..

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    Why Titanium? The Moto sure doesn't look like it has the geometry you want and the Roubaix (which you've actually ridden) does. The solution seems obvious to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
    Why Titanium? The Moto sure doesn't look like it has the geometry you want and the Roubaix (which you've actually ridden) does. The solution seems obvious to me.

    Hi Halfspeed,
    I agree Fit is foremost when it comes to bike.
    You do have a good point and may even go for a carbon bike from LBS... but
    Few reasons:

    1) I value, value for the $$ and the similar titanium bike going for north of $4K in LBS
    2) I can go for Carbon but Ti allures me
    3) I like to experiment and sometimes I fail as well. I also value others' opinions hence this thread.
    4) I'd like to experiment with MB Ti and if I don't like I still have 30 days to try out. Worst case, I may be out of $100 to ship back..

    I am going to meet one of the members here who is local to me and owns a 53 cm MB Ti to see the bike in flesh and just see if it looks OK to me. I am sure the MB Ti is a fine bike but if for whatever reason I don't like it in real, I may not even get it from BD.


    Thanks all for all the comments.

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    ^^Mine's a 51. I'm just under 5'9" and it fits me well and not much saddle to bar drop.

    See you Thursday...


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    Quote Originally Posted by megalowmatt View Post
    ^^Mine's a 51. I'm just under 5'9" and it fits me well and not much saddle to bar drop.

    See you Thursday...

    Thanks Matt for helping me out. 51 cm would give me an idea about 53cm. I like the look of your bike ie nude Ti.

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    The BD's Chris suggested me 56cm based on my measurements.

    Thanks

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    Just wanted to update that one month back I bought a used but almost new LiteSpeeed T5 with SRAM Force build. The size is Large with ETT = 57 cm.
    I test rode it and liked the feel of the bike and bought it on a whim. After that I took it to my Bike Fitter in San Diego and he told me that the bike fits like a glove to me. I told my need for riding ie comfy ride nothing too racy. He advised to me tweak the stem as I ride more but he finds everything dialed in properly for me. The stem size is 110mm and if needed I can go to 90mm but I don't see the need for it.

    I am 5'10.5'' and I was concerned that bike would be tad bit big for me but that does not seem to be the case. Also, in my previous bike Felt z85 with ETT 54.5cm, I used to get neck and lower back pain even after a ride of 10-15 miles. With this bike, I don't get those pains.
    The new comfy ride is definitely suiting me more and I like the look and feel of the bike.

    Thanks all in this forum to help me out

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