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How do we press the big three to offer 13t smallest cog cassettes?

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Old 05-21-14, 06:14 AM
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In all fairness, my post was snarky, and I do get that you are looking for an ideal solution for your exact situation. I own standard cranks, compact cranks, and single ring cranks, and truth be told see very little difference between them, so I do think that there is far too much hand wringing on this forum for folks seeking the perfect gearing.

I have a good friend that would be best served by ditching his standard crank, and installing a compact. But he refuses, and remains a very low cadence masher. So I probably do key in a wee bit on refusal to consider other cranks.

Also, I always swore by standard cranks for me (in the rare cases I ride multi-speed), but I have been very pleased with my latest build of a 50-34 with a 12-23 9 speed cassette. It gives linear shifting with no overlap, and has been extremely intuitive to ride and shift.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Just for more discussion fodder, what ended up being the choices of chainring combos that would go with these cassettes. Nice website by the way.
We based it on 53/39 and 50/34 crank sets which comprise the vast majority of the market.
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You have an 11-29 Shimano/SRAM! Sweet!
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Originally Posted by TheSame
I love my DA 9000 12-28. Perfect gearing for my riding.
I wish they carried that to down to 6800 and 5800. No real need for an 11t (and 32t is too much for me with a compact). I'm running 10-speed 12-27.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
What a bunch of crap. I regard this whole exchange as valuable and thought the many ideas were useful. But what, I can't have preferences? I can't analyze and judge the advice that's offered? I can't keep my existing crank? I can't prefer a brand? I can't sort through responses for those that I like more or less? It's just a discussion.

But while we're at it, the compact crank solution is not at all the same mostly because of the greater relative separation of the rings. Saying it is the same over and over doesn't make it so.

So after your pithy analysis, what wisdom with regard to the original question do you have to offer?
You started the thread talking about "pressing the big 3". It turns out you really mean "I want SRAM to make a different cassette".

Also, outside of junior gearing restrictions, any time you want a cassette that starts at 13 and ends around 30, with a standard crank, you're on the wrong crank. Seriously. I'm sorry you don't want to hear it; the ego issues people have with the 110BCD drive me up the wall. Change the crank. Change it to a 50/36 for the same 14t gap and the gearing you want with common cassettes. Bite the bullet. You'll be happier long term.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
You started the thread talking about "pressing the big 3". It turns out you really mean "I want SRAM to make a different cassette".

Also, outside of junior gearing restrictions, any time you want a cassette that starts at 13 and ends around 30, with a standard crank, you're on the wrong crank. Seriously. I'm sorry you don't want to hear it; the ego issues people have with the 110BCD drive me up the wall. Change the crank. Change it to a 50/36 for the same 14t gap and the gearing you want with common cassettes. Bite the bullet. You'll be happier long term.
Good advice. Thanks. I just may. This is a significant "learning" from this discussion process. It turns out to be about SRAM because that's what I ride. Why would I care about anything else. The more generic nature of the thread title was based on the assumption that others would feel similarly about their own Shimano and Campy. And not knowing that Campy already had some offerings along these lines. All in all a very constructive thread in my opinion.

As far as being egoistically invested in 110 BCD, I can't say I understand what you mean. I have had a couple of 50/34 cranks in the past. Right now my three 53/39s pretty much dictate my atttitude. I'm not going to fork over north of $1,200 to convert them all to 74 BCD. If that is ego, so be it, but I can't say I see it that way. If you want to make me an even exchange, I'm down for that.
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