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SundayNiagara 05-24-14 05:29 PM

I'm in South Florida, white with black letters ONLY.

enjoi07 05-24-14 06:04 PM

Now THIS!

We have some concept. I like the FOURTYONE idea, but I flipped it to read FOURTYONE to highlight the singular, the individuals that make these threads come alive...which is also why I also set the word ONE in the three colors of the BD flame. Each one of us makes up the the entirety of this circus called the 41.

The five stripes (alternating grey and blue) pay homage to the world champ stripes, but are stripped of color almost as an inside joke...we're no world champs here.

The colors come into play one the left sleeve, where I have formed tiny crosses (referencing the symbol for "planet earth"), each quarter a color from the world stripes with the center being black (see detail screen shot.)

On the center pocket is the quote by Ernest Hemingway.

This is a digital rough. I am still exploring variations and ideas but this starts to show what I have in mind.

It starts to incorporate more concept and idea behind these forums in a semi-original way. People will KNOW this is a BF kit, a black kit with white lettering looks like Above Category and they already do it right.

http://i61.tinypic.com/ws3eiv.png

http://i58.tinypic.com/10moopv.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/xqi4k3.png

Pirkaus 05-24-14 07:43 PM

40 (forty) is the natural number following 39 and preceding 41.


Despite being related to the word "four" (4), 40 is spelled "forty", and not "fourty". The reason is that etymologically (also in accents without the horse–hoarse merger) the words have different vowels.[citation needed] "Forty" containing a contraction in the same way that "fifty" contains a contraction of "five".

Subtle inside jokes are ok, but the misspelled forty is to much. IMAO
I like the Hemingway quote idea if it's legible
Pirk

Dudelsack 05-24-14 08:13 PM

**** the ******* out of the ******, and the ****** they rode in on.

Then *** with the ****** of ***** ********* *** and eat a Graham ******* and get your paintball *** and ***** *** *******!

spdntrxi 05-24-14 08:27 PM

3 stripe is too adidas

EnsitMike 05-25-14 01:03 AM

Here are the color highlights some of you asked for as well as a white iteration because several of you also mentioned that. Thanks for all the feedback!


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ps93634e3b.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ps3b8cfa3d.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ps8a93be22.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...psa0cac25a.jpg

john.b 05-25-14 01:12 AM

The reason I like Primal jerseys is that their sizing is known quantity, I know what to expect. Not so much with other manufacturers. FWIW, I think I've bought my last pair of bike shorts, much prefer bibs.

As to the design, I like the latest iteration above, but would prefer "41" on each shoulder over the "BF" options.

All in all, good work!

enjoi07 05-25-14 02:30 AM

http://i60.tinypic.com/245bkzt.png

http://i60.tinypic.com/flxb29.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/mkc8zs.png

chaadster 05-25-14 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnsitMike (Post 16789401)
Here are the color highlights some of you asked for as well as a white iteration because several of you also mentioned that. Thanks for all the feedback!


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ps93634e3b.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ps3b8cfa3d.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...ps8a93be22.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...psa0cac25a.jpg

All very good to my eye/sensibilities, but the top one is brilliant! I think the letter shadows that overrun the horizontal stripe give depth and wholeness; could that be applied to the black body/white stripe design? No matter, really, as the white version shown is a buy for me!

Enjoi07: also good designs!

surgeonstone 05-25-14 08:06 AM

Visibility is a good thing. All black is not. Design is boring, go with fluorescent lime green or orange, something more visible and help us stay alive.

Looigi 05-25-14 10:41 AM

All black is good for self-conscious neurotics. Despite that, I do really like the version that's mainly white...a lot. When I first saw the black concept I was going to suggest switching black and white to make it somewhat similar to the Giant/Shimano kit. FWIW: I like Pactimo for custom stuff.

h2oxtc 05-25-14 11:07 AM

1 Attachment(s)
I'm liking this version, or the black with yellow. Very nicely done!

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=382787

enjoi07 05-25-14 12:15 PM

I don't know man, still looks poorly designed.

- The little flame is hokey (is that vector? will it reproduce well at scale if not?)

- The drop shadow on the BFRC on front is messy.

There is some good stuff going on, it just needs to be cleaned up:

http://i58.tinypic.com/244zei0.png

enjoi07 05-25-14 12:21 PM

Other variations:

http://i60.tinypic.com/hx6nup.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/4j9ro4.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/n1fnk7.png

http://i61.tinypic.com/2pzz981.png

http://i59.tinypic.com/1z6a1a8.png

http://i61.tinypic.com/29114pz.png

This one's rad ;)

http://i58.tinypic.com/10qkvo5.png

Looigi 05-25-14 12:51 PM

What's the significance of the star?

enjoi07 05-25-14 01:12 PM

Stars, on Bike Forums, identify members and moderators. If you pay for membership to BF you get a red star next to your name. Purple stars are for mods, etc.

(anyone chime in and correct me if I am wrong on that.)

Now that I think about it, that is why I did a neutral colored star on the last Bike Forums 41 jersey I designed. I did not want to do a red or purple star because that has a specific meaning, where a neutral star could signify a member in general, or in this case, someone who purchases a BF jersey...I think that is worthy of some kind of star :D

So yea, the star would most likely just stay black or grey on the jersey.

Team Sarcasm 05-25-14 01:26 PM

I dig the blue ones, not so much the black and white ones. It's more of a pattern thing as opposed to a color thing.

Homebrew01 05-25-14 01:56 PM

In general I don't like black jerseys due to poor visibility for inattentive drivers.
I have a couple and only use them as base layers in the winter.

EnsitMike 05-25-14 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoi07 (Post 16788685)
Now THIS!

We have some concept. I like the FOURTYONE idea, but I flipped it to read FOURTYONE to highlight the singular, the individuals that make these threads come alive...which is also why I also set the word ONE in the three colors of the BD flame. Each one of us makes up the the entirety of this circus called the 41.

The five stripes (alternating grey and blue) pay homage to the world champ stripes, but are stripped of color almost as an inside joke...we're no world champs here.

The colors come into play one the left sleeve, where I have formed tiny crosses (referencing the symbol for "planet earth"), each quarter a color from the world stripes with the center being black (see detail screen shot.)

On the center pocket is the quote by Ernest Hemingway.

This is a digital rough. I am still exploring variations and ideas but this starts to show what I have in mind.

It starts to incorporate more concept and idea behind these forums in a semi-original way. People will KNOW this is a BF kit, a black kit with white lettering looks like Above Category and they already do it right.



http://i58.tinypic.com/10moopv.png


Now this. It's nice but I'm not a big fan of the baby blue theme going on, even if it is from the website. I like that you got conceptual with all the little details but I'm not sure people really identify with it. There is a lot of different colors going on too, with different fonts for the numbers and letters. Feels very chaotic and leaves me wanting something a little more assertive. The designs that you started doing trending off my theme were looking better, but again the baby blue-- and I wasn't sure what the red star was about. I know moderators have stars but that seemed a bit ambiguous. I'm definitely getting a quicksilver, volcom, surf culture vibe from them.

We'll see, hopefully more forum members will chime in.

EnsitMike 05-25-14 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaadster (Post 16789782)
All very good to my eye/sensibilities, but the top one is brilliant! I think the letter shadows that overrun the horizontal stripe give depth and wholeness; could that be applied to the black body/white stripe design? No matter, really, as the white version shown is a buy for me!

Enjoi07: also good designs!

Glad you're vibing with it. Design is a very personal thing so the hard part is finding a middle ground everyone will enjoy. I can definitely do it with the black as well. Unfortunately, it looks like we have a lot of people that are opposed to black jerseys but we can see what happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Looigi (Post 16790173)
All black is good for self-conscious neurotics. Despite that, I do really like the version that's mainly white...a lot. When I first saw the black concept I was going to suggest switching black and white to make it somewhat similar to the Giant/Shimano kit. FWIW: I like Pactimo for custom stuff.

That says a lot about me, considering I wear 85% black on a daily basis ;] Glad the white version is working for ya.

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoi07 (Post 16790376)
I don't know man, still looks poorly designed.

- The little flame is hokey (is that vector? will it reproduce well at scale if not?)

- The drop shadow on the BFRC on front is messy.

There is some good stuff going on, it just needs to be cleaned up:

- Making a flame vector from the clipart in illustrator would take 5 minutes.

- It's not a drop shadow, moreso an expansion. It goes off each side adding a popping effect-- but regardless it is just a visual aid. All the refinements can be done once the forum has picked a final design.

We have a lot of people liking the white version so I think it's close.

Cyril 05-25-14 02:45 PM

I really like how the design is developing.
Perhaps a discrete HTFU somewhere on the jersey would be in order?
It is, after all, the 41's defining acronym.

enjoi07 05-25-14 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyril (Post 16790635)
I really like how the design is developing.
Perhaps a discrete HTFU somewhere on the jersey would be in order?
It is, after all, the 41's defining acronym.

Last time we hid it inside the middle pocket. Maybe we can bring that back again.

enjoi07 05-25-14 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnsitMike (Post 16790564)
Now this. It's nice but I'm not a big fan of the baby blue theme going on, even if it is from the website. I like that you got conceptual with all the little details but I'm not sure people really identify with it. There is a lot of different colors going on too, with different fonts for the numbers and letters. Feels very chaotic and leaves me wanting something a little more assertive. The designs that you started doing trending off my theme were looking better, but again the baby blue-- and I wasn't sure what the red star was about. I know moderators have stars but that seemed a bit ambiguous. I'm definitely getting a quicksilver, volcom, surf culture vibe from them.



We'll see, hopefully more forum members will chime in.


Colors are intended to be midnight blue and a light silver/grey. The colors render different from screen to screen.

Numbers and letters are exact same font.

It's all going in a decent direction. Maybe something even more minimal is in order.

roanokerick 05-25-14 03:18 PM

For what it's worth I like the one in post #38 the best so far. I live in Texas so I am out on black. In my opinion simple is better; too much fanciness with the font and fade-outs etc looks dated quickly.

rangerdavid 05-25-14 03:55 PM

I loved the last one with the blue/black theme. These look cool too.. very nice work so far!!


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