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    it must be in my head

    So I needed new tires anyway and decided to go with armadillos on my road bike. I ride far from home usually on week days when there aren't many riders around and pass through all different types of urban chaos before I hit the suburban roads so the puncture resistance is important. That being said went out for first distance ride on new tires and felt gassed. A climb I do regularly was suddenly killing me. Please tell me it is all in my head and I am over reacting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roninguy View Post
    So I needed new tires anyway and decided to go with armadillos on my road bike. I ride far from home usually on week days when there aren't many riders around and pass through all different types of urban chaos before I hit the suburban roads so the puncture resistance is important. That being said went out for first distance ride on new tires and felt gassed. A climb I do regularly was suddenly killing me. Please tell me it is all in my head and I am over reacting.
    It's not in your head. The price of puncture resistance is a crappy ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
    It's not in your head. The price of puncture resistance is a crappy ride.
    Oh, please say it isn't so. I've been riding on Vittoria Diamante Pro Lights on my good bike and just loving the ride, but after 3 flats on the rear tire in the last few weeks, I was about to give up and put on a Gatorskin - at least on the rear.

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    Yeah, that protection comes at a price, namely weight and ride comfort. Those armadillos take a beating though.

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    Oh !$%#
    I felt something was weird when I started the climb and was passed by a few people (happens often) then i was into the teeth of the hill where it is usually slow going and I felt it. I eventually stopped and caught my breath before I kept going. never stopped on this climb before even when over doing it during a heat wave too much silly pride. Today, had to stop to catch my breath.

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    Brake pads rubbing ?
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    OP,
    I think you are aging and are slowing down.

    Which begs the whole issue of E-bikes...
    A week ago I was out on my loop bike ride which contains a closed road dedicated to cycling. Am cruising along about 19 mph or so and a guy on a long steel bike with a basket in back pulls up next to me and I notice he wasn't pedaling and his bike looked looked large and heavy because of stretched wheelbase and high handlebar. We rode for about 10 more miles together and chatted. He had started a E-bike company with another guy and just built a bike for the local police department and told me some of the specs of the motor and battery and on board computer etc. Very interesting. He said the current range of his bike governed to 19 mph was 125 miles. His particular bike was ungoverned that we was riding but seemed to be limited on top speed...wouldn't go over 25 mph or so because we raced briefly as I was curious. Some may follow technology but it is quite possible in the next 5 years there will be a revolution of battery tech according to the builder. Doing a bit of digging after the ride, this is possible and if it occurs I think you will see electric bikes, scooters and cars become more prevalent and will have trickle down to all portables including ipad, phones etc.

    OP...changing tires like you have may affect your performance by say up to 5% but no more. If in doubt, swap reg tires and repeat the test. Likely your pressure was a bit low or you were a bit fatigued that day or weather/wind wasn't as friendly. Many ride with endurance tires on their road bikes. I for example ride with an in between training tire...a Vittoria Rubino Pro III which is inserted for additional flat protection and has 150 TPI. I love these tires for their combination of ride, speed and protection against thorns. For the protection this tire has, it has excellent speed. I also don't run latex tubes but rather thicker tubes. Yes I am going to get more speed out of another tire/tube combo with less protection and higher tread count but I want the protection when riding far from home. So tires like most things are a tradeoff and you will have to decide what you want as there are many options and you don't have to default to the heaviest thickest tire with best protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
    OP,

    He said the current range of his bike governed to 19 mph was 125 miles.
    That seems huge. I'm impressed.








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    When I took delivery of my new Domane 6.2 in early March, it came with Bontrager R4 lightweight race tires. Seven miles--seven miles!--into my maiden voyage I got a flat. Tiny piece of wire, about the size of a toothbrush bristle. I took the bike right to the Trek dealer and had them swap out the R4's for Gatorskins.

    I might pay a small weight penalty, but since then not one flat. For recreational and group rides, I'd trade a little speed versus having to change flats frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
    That seems huge. I'm impressed.
    He sources his battery for his bikes per his design which he says make quite a difference. 125 miles is based upon governed performance with top speed of 19mph.

    Battery technology has stayed relatively the same with some minor evolution over the past 50 years.
    Here is a link that explains perhaps a revolution...based upon many challenges. I believe Elon Musk is pursuing this technology. Musk is perhaps our modern day Thomas Edison....incredibly brilliant. If somebody in our era will make it happen, its him. I believe there will be breakthrough personally at some point which will revolutionize portable electric power:

    New lithium-ion battery design that?s 2,000 times more powerful, recharges 1,000 times faster | ExtremeTech

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIRview View Post
    Tiny piece of wire, about the size of a toothbrush bristle. I took the bike right to the Trek dealer and had them swap out the R4's for Gatorskins.
    Those tiny wires kill Gatorskins too. My first and last Gatorskin tire was punctured by a small piece of glass on the first ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
    Those tiny wires kill Gatorskins too. My first and last Gatorskin tire was punctured by a small piece of glass on the first ride.
    Those little wires, I believe, are often from steel belted tires. Had a flat in our group ride on Saturday because of one.

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