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Old 06-28-14, 12:15 PM   #26
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No but the Clydesdales/Athena's should have "90.7+" jerseys if we are going to wear the "41" of HTFU shame.
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Old 06-28-14, 12:40 PM   #27
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Other forms of social media have essentially killed it. In reality - why post an honest technical question in an anonymous Internet forum only to have a lot of people who don't know -try and answer the question when you can post it on Facebook or Twitter and have the actual people who work there or built it answer the question.

Don't get me wrong there has always been a great deal of entertainment associated with this type of social model, but can't help but feel like there were more threads of substance in the past. Doesn't always have to be new stuff, but at least something that can be helpful to someone and entertaining to the rest of us.

A lot of the quality content creators have gone away. Luckily I am still in contact with most on Facebook and Twitter. Turns out they are even smarter and more funny in real life.

I met a lot of real people through here so I kind of refuse to give up but it definitely doesn't hold nearly as much of my interest.
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Old 06-28-14, 12:44 PM   #28
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Other forms of social media have essentially killed it. In reality - why post an honest technical question in an anonymous Internet forum only to have a lot of people who don't know -try and answer the question when you can post it on Facebook or Twitter and have the actual people who work there or built it answer the question.

Don't get me wrong there has always been a great deal of entertainment associated with this type of social model, but can't help but feel like there were more threads of substance in the past. Doesn't always have to be new stuff, but at least something that can be helpful to someone and entertaining to the rest of us.

A lot of the quality content creators have gone away. Luckily I am still in contact with most on Facebook and Twitter. Turns out they are even smarter and more funny in real life.

I met a lot of real people through here so I kind of refuse to give up but it definitely doesn't hold nearly as much of my interest.
You think the guys that post on social media that supposed work for the companies actually know what they are talking about? And then there is the omnipresent PC/sanitized version spouted by all the corporate pukes that don't know their @$$ from third base. Glad you find it enlightening tho.
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You think the guys that post on social media that supposed work for the companies actually know what they are talking about? And then there is the omnipresent PC/sanitized version spouted by all the corporate pukes that don't know their @$$ from third base. Glad you find it enlightening tho.
Not to the company specific handles or profiles - no. The actual people.

Example - had a few quick exchanges on disc brakes and cross between Adam Myerson and Richard Sachs. That was thanks to Facebook. That isn't happening here on Bike Forums.
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Not to the company specific handles or profiles - no. The actual people.

Example - had a few quick exchanges on disc brakes and cross between Adam Myerson and Richard Sachs. That was thanks to Facebook. That isn't happening here on Bike Forums.
Yeah but we have bdop!!

wait, does that mean the 41 is not in decline??
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Not to the company specific handles or profiles - no. The actual people.

Example - had a few quick exchanges on disc brakes and cross between Adam Myerson and Richard Sachs. That was thanks to Facebook. That isn't happening here on Bike Forums.
I guess the question is...just how meaningful will be any technical exchange? Reason is obvious. With the rare exception of a Facebook member being technically savy...you for example are there mostly for commercial reasons as you don't fit the demographic of a social media butterfly, no way Myerson or Sachs are going to speak freely about any technical nuances because of liability and/or proprietary reasons...nor will they speak plainly about future plans or diss the competition. Glad you were enlightened tho.
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I guess the question is...just how meaningful will be any technical exchange? Reason is obvious. With the rare exception of a Facebook member being technically savy...you for example are there mostly for commercial reasons as you don't fit the demographic of a social media butterfly, no way Myerson or Sachs are going to speak freely about any technical nuances because of liability and/or proprietary reasons...nor will they speak plainly about future plans or diss the competition. Glad you were enlightened tho.
:Beer: - neither of those two ever holds back on opinion regardless of who is watching. ATMO
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:Beer: - neither of those two ever holds back on opinion regardless of who is watching. ATMO
Have you caught any lies on facebook from Mary Barra about GM's cover up of their ignition issue that 'she' as an insider has known about for the last 10 years?...lol. Rhetorical.
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I dunno, maybe the industry is different in things related to cycling but if I were to use social media to post anything related to work I'd have to post disclaimers and also avoid anything controversial, or else get HR community relations involved to vet my postings. So that basically isn't going to happen. I've seen insiders posting on BF however. Or postings by people who I think knew something from inside the industry but aren't necessarily overt about it.

Besides, how can the 41 be in decline when I just proved scientifically that waving costs you 10-12% extra drag and posted it here exclusively?
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Old 06-29-14, 06:01 PM   #38
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Twitter?

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There is a rumor (I started) that the 41 will renamed the 39. If this is true (it ain't) than it is declining.
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You scared off the clueless, and the snarky took you seriously.
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That's not in the 41.
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if 42 is the meaning of life, then 41 must mean... penis?


decline? I sure hope not!
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That's not in the 41.
My apologies. Thought "the 41" referred to the whole forum.
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My apologies. Thought "the 41" referred to the whole forum.
Not really any reason you should know. BF stopped using number designations for subforums before you signed up.
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Which means, of course, that the 41 is dead.
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Which means, of course, that the 41 is dead.
Long live the 41.
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