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    Fake Zipp's

    These came off of a recently purchased Madone. I was checking over the bike and was too distracted to notice that these are probably fake. Thankfully the bike was in fantastic condition, but was disappointed in the wheels. I'm hoping these are maybe older model Zipp's with newer decals, or a decent set of wheels with the original decals replaced with these. LBS told me these are still a decent set, but not the $2,500 set of 404 FC. If they are Chinese carbon clinchers how would I sell these with no brand or information? The only thing they have going for them is that they are incredibly light (compared to William's System 38) and they sound exactly like the wheels at the LBS. Not a whole lot of experience with these so maybe they all sound the same.

    • No hub decals
    • No skewer decals
    • Unbranded spokes

    Can post more pictures if needed. All help is greatly appreciated.

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    or you could just ride them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
    or you could just ride them.
    I'm sure I exceed the weight limit by quite a bit. The money would go towards a more suitable set of wheels. The risk of trashing these wheels outweigh the benefit at this time.
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    Where did you buy the bike from? If the Zipp wheels were real then the price of the bike should reflect that. If you want to unload fake Zipp's, I may be interested. As long as they ride fine, don't worry about it. Or if you are worried, I would reach back out to who you purchased the bike from. Not sure what action you can take though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramercy View Post
    Where did you buy the bike from? If the Zipp wheels were real then the price of the bike should reflect that. If you want to unload fake Zipp's, I may be interested. As long as they ride fine, don't worry about it. Or if you are worried, I would reach back out to who you purchased the bike from. Not sure what action you can take though.
    would be my course of action as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramercy View Post
    Where did you buy the bike from? If the Zipp wheels were real then the price of the bike should reflect that. If you want to unload fake Zipp's, I may be interested. As long as they ride fine, don't worry about it. Or if you are worried, I would reach back out to who you purchased the bike from. Not sure what action you can take though.
    Most of the deals are through Craigslist. I called him back and mentioned they were fake he replied saying the hub was swapped for a Campagnolo conversion, and that the dealer offered them in matte or gloss (Xtreme cycles in Ormond FL) which doesn't make sense, as they don't offer that option?
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    If it's not something that you can take up with the seller, look for high and low for some marks that may help distinguish the maker. If that leads nowhere, just de-badge them and sell them as wheels with open-mold rims.
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    I would see what you could do about getting your money back. Selling counterfeit stuff is against the law and you definitely have recourse for getting a refund.
    Trying to sell them you are hoping for maybe $400 at best. I am willing to bet Zipp would be interested in knowing where and who is selling generic stuff rebranded as their wheels as there are legitimate safety and legal concerns.

    Whatever you do, don't try to sell them with the Zipp decals still on. . .even if you list them as not real Zipps.

    FWIW, Zipp is not going to do a one-off rim in a gloss finish for a bike shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    Most of the deals are through Craigslist. I called him back and mentioned they were fake he replied saying the hub was swapped for a Campagnolo conversion, and that the dealer offered them in matte or gloss (Xtreme cycles in Ormond FL) which doesn't make sense, as they don't offer that option?

    No one else thinks contacting the dealer in question would help alleviate the issue? Or find out where the original owner purchased them/ask for proof of purchase?

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    Guess I'm lost. From the video - yeah those aren't 404 firecrest. As for whether or not they are decent wheels...you'd have to evaluate that yourself. In general most product is generally fine to ride, but impossible to tell. In general I would also have a hard time trusting any company that was willfully badging it's stuff as Zipp 404s...

    A quick way to check too is to see if they flex easily all the way over to the brake pads with the calipers open. Real Zipps will do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachboyd View Post
    Whatever you do, don't try to sell them with the Zipp decals still on. . .even if you list them as not real Zipps.
    ^ +1,000...at this point you own counterfeit product. Don't try and re-sell it as Zipps.

    Quote Originally Posted by coachboyd View Post
    FWIW, Zipp is not going to do a one-off rim in a gloss finish for a bike shop.
    That's exactly what I noticed and made it a definite immediately. OP - Zipp doesn't do full gloss 3k weave. A lot of the cheaper polyester models of rims coming from China right now have that. FWIW - foam core braking =

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
    or you could just ride them.
    first response. 275 straight down the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
    Guess I'm lost. From the video - yeah those aren't 404 firecrest. As for whether or not they are decent wheels...you'd have to evaluate that yourself. In general most product is generally fine to ride, but impossible to tell. In general I would also have a hard time trusting any company that was willfully badging it's stuff as Zipp 404s...

    A quick way to check too is to see if they flex easily all the way over to the brake pads with the calipers open. Real Zipps will do that.
    How would I test that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    How would I test that?
    You're kidding right? They aren't Zipps. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
    You're kidding right? They aren't Zipps. Period.
    Yes, I've figured that out. That's why I haven't posted since.
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