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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...a Cautionary Tale from today's LA times. I just hope I don't have to drive down there for an intervention.
You know all this cycling is just a ploy to finally get you down here?
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Originally Posted by ls01
(Sigh) Perhaps some day. I need a few years at the job to accumulate that kind of vacation time to make it worth it. I do intend to come back there some day, its just to nice not to do it again. It does make riding here suck a bit though by comparison, especially in the winter.



EDIT: I still, to this day, carry the hand written directions to Hollywood and the sign, in my wallet.
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Bicycling in thunderstorms. Oy.

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Originally Posted by ls01
tldr, ffs
WTF? You are totally uninvited.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
RUOkie can correct me, but I think we start with 1500-1800 calories in reserve. Keeping it somewhat in balance is the goal, without going into a negative. Eventually you will have to add protein to the mix, which is why I always had Perpetuem on hand. Whey protein is a bit easier on the system, but many folks can't seem to handle Hammer products. Gels and blocks are also on the menu, and Hostess Snowball are a certainty after 200 miles. I have yet to figure out how people can eat a whole meal while on a ride, but I have seen many a Rando do it. Not my thing, though the only full meal I eat each day is the salad I have for dinner.
that is pretty accurate, although the reserve part can be very variable. The more you train at endurance events, the more you store, but there is an upper limit to us all and that is determined by genetics That is why a lot of people currently advocate occasionally training on an empty stomach to stress the system Obviously that is not something you want to do every day.
@Heathpack. The advantage to gels and blocks are that they are very rapidly absorbed, with little to no digestion needed (just your salivary amylase) So you can take in 100 kcal and within a min or two you can use it.
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And for those of you playing the home version. I have a 94 z 28 with a living, fire breathing LS-01 that is almost fully functional. needs air conditioning and some further tuning of the pcm. You wanna talk about hold on to your hat? Yikes! its jaw dropping the difference from the LT-01 to the LS-01. Like it has an extra 4 cylinders. I cant believe some people will put a tubo on this engine. I would need a spatula to scrap my eyeballs off the back of my skull. This is going to be fun....
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Originally Posted by ls01
And for those of you playing the home version. I have a 94 z 28 with a living, fire breathing LS-01 that is almost fully functional. needs air conditioning and some further tuning of the pcm. You wanna talk about hold on to your hat? Yikes! its jaw dropping the difference from the LT-01 to the LS-01. Like it has an extra 4 cylinders. I cant believe some people will put a tubo on this engine. I would need a spatula to scrap my eyeballs off the back of my skull. This is going to be fun....
please install a dashcam with streaming
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Where are you?

Mi......Hell.... same thing really....
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
please install a dashcam with streaming

Just keep watching cops....it cant be long now.....
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
that is pretty accurate, although the reserve part can be very variable. The more you train at endurance events, the more you store, but there is an upper limit to us all and that is determined by genetics That is why a lot of people currently advocate occasionally training on an empty stomach to stress the system Obviously that is not something you want to do every day.
@Heathpack. The advantage to gels and blocks are that they are very rapidly absorbed, with little to no digestion needed (just your salivary amylase) So you can take in 100 kcal and within a min or two you can use it.
What do you mean "training on an empty stomach"? I do my morning rides fasted. They are about 2 hours twice a week, medium intensity. Or are you talking about longer training rides than that?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
WTF? You are totally uninvited.

Maybe I should warn you... I have a short attention sp....Hey! Look !!!! a Chicken...
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Originally Posted by ls01
Maybe I should warn you... I have a short attention sp....Hey! Look !!!! a Chicken...
I am no longer speaking to you, FYI.

Except for this response.

But then that's it. You are cut off.

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Originally Posted by Heathpack
What do you mean "training on an empty stomach"? I do my morning rides fasted. They are about 2 hours twice a week, medium intensity. Or are you talking about longer training rides than that?
nope, that's perfect
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Originally Posted by ls01
Just keep watching cops....it cant be long now.....
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Originally Posted by LAJ
RUOkie can correct me, but I think we start with 1500-1800 calories in reserve. Keeping it somewhat in balance is the goal, without going into a negative. Eventually you will have to add protein to the mix, which is why I always had Perpetuem on hand. Whey protein is a bit easier on the system, but many folks can't seem to handle Hammer products. Gels and blocks are also on the menu, and Hostess Snowball are a certainty after 200 miles. I have yet to figure out how people can eat a whole meal while on a ride, but I have seen many a Rando do it. Not my thing, though the only full meal I eat each day is the salad I have for dinner.
Why protein?

You only eat one meal a day normally? Or when you are cycling? If you only eat one meal a day, my mind is totally blown.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Why protein?

You only eat one meal a day normally? Or when you are cycling? If you only eat one meal a day, my mind is totally blown.
protein while on the bike will help you with muscle recovery (which you need since you are keeping yourself under stress for 11hrs). Some of it will also be available as energy (remember, they are different metabolic pathways). Remember the Krebs cycle.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
What do you mean "training on an empty stomach"? I do my morning rides fasted. They are about 2 hours twice a week, medium intensity. Or are you talking about longer training rides than that?

I often do 60 plus mile rides on an empty stomach. It helps that I dont like to eat and ride, but it doesnt really hurt me either. I have done centuries on no more than a couple of cookies because I thought I should eat something. I drink a lot of water at stops, Just dont get between me and the buffet when its over.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
protein while on the bike will help you with muscle recovery (which you need since you are keeping yourself under stress for 11hrs). Some of it will also be available as energy (remember, they are different metabolic pathways). Remember the Krebs cycle.
For what duration/intensity of ride should I be eating protein? Normally? Or just these long rides? I am all about the post-ride chocolate milk. I even drank a big glass after my weenie zero effort ride today. Any excuse for some chocolate milk.
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They canceled the only organized ride I was planning on participating in this year the MN Major: River to River Ride so Saturday I decided (last minute) to ride it solo. I altered the route slightly to just leave from my home instead of the apple orchard it normally leaves from. Around the 50 mile mark I started to think I wrote my cue sheet down wrong so I turned around and rode back to connect with where my route was heading. Turns out my turn was about 5 miles ahead of where I gave up on it. So, my ride got cut short by 10-15 miles, but with the additional miles caused by leaving from home I still kept it over 100k (70.8 miles).

I was out of Skratch Labs so I picked up a Gatorade and cut it 50/50 with water. That stuff is still way to sweet even diluted down that much. I also didn't have anything on hand to munch on while I was riding so using knowledge gleaned from Addiction @Heathpack) I picked up a package of figgies to munch along the way. I still probably should have stopped for lunch in Afton before the 3 "big" "climbs" because my legs were about toast by the time I got done with them. Luckily it's just 15 miles or so from that point back home so no big deal.

My Garmin said 4600 feet of climbing and Strava tells me 2900 feet. I don't know which to believe, but I thought it was a lot of climbing until I saw the rides being posted by people I follow on Strava. One guy I ride with did a 8 person group ride in Western WI that consisted of 4k feet of climbing over 73 miles, which is comparable to what I did except they did it at 4mph faster than me... Must be nice to have people to draft off of! Then of course @Heathpack posted her ride. Show off!

Was a good ride. I'll have to do it again and keep going for the correct turn off point at the 50 mile mark. Maybe save something in the tank so I can tack on a few miles and make it a century ride.
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I often do 60 plus mile rides on an empty stomach. It helps that I dont like to eat and ride, but it doesnt really hurt me either. I have done centuries on no more than a couple of cookies because I thought I should eat something. I drink a lot of water at stops, Just dont get between me and the buffet when its over.
I can't do that. 2 hours is my limit when fasting, and even that length, I'm starting to fade. But that is my own fault. Those 1-2 beers in the evening make me relatively hypoglycemic in the morning
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Originally Posted by Herbie53
Firehouse Century today... 123.4 miles and 7,530 ft.

We missed a few turns.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Why protein?

You only eat one meal a day normally? Or when you are cycling? If you only eat one meal a day, my mind is totally blown.
I basically eat a little bit all day long, Heathpack. A couple pieces of toast within half an hour after waking up to jump start the metabolism, then fruits and veggies through the day. There will be a sandwich or something tossed in the mix somewhere.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
please don't use the term "carb loading" it doesn't work and in many ways is counterproductive to good energy balance.
There was pizza at the end of this morning's race. I just had a banana and some water.
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