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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 07-17-14, 07:27 PM   #151
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Such breathtaking ignorance. It's amazing.

First of all, not all footballers dive. It's the Italians and the South Americans who are famous for diving. And certain other characters like Arjen Robben, whose own teammates have expressed displeasure with his histrionics. Did you see any diving by the Germans in the final? Or by most of the other teams? No.

There was even that famous commercial making fun of the Italians for diving, fer chrissakes.


Second of all, footballers not tough? That's just completely ridiculous. They run 10 km a game, and get smacked all over their legs by other footballers with powerful legs intent on getting to the ball first. That seriously bloody hurts. Every human being person who gets kicked anywhere in the legs is going to go down. Everyone. Watch some martial arts some time. That's what footballers are contending with all game, except that they have exponentially more power in their legs than martial arts practitioners.

Third of all, you have to be taking the piss about sportsmanship. My gawd, that is a breathtaking thing to say. I mean, where to begin? When a player goes down and looks like he's staying down, the player with the ball will kick it out of bounds, and then the opposing team will send the free throw back down to the team who originally had the ball when play resumes. It's not in the rule book, and the referee doesn't enforce it. It's just a part of the tradition of the game. How often in the NBA or NFL do players help players on the opposing team up off the floor, or go to them and apologize for a rough play? Never. In football the referee will force two players to shake hands after an altercation. The game must proceed with the spirit of sportsmanship intact. When do you see that in North American sports?

The ignorance in this thread is unbelievable. I mean, nobody cares if you don't like football, but at least get your facts straight.
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Old 07-17-14, 07:40 PM   #152
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rousseau is infamous for America bashing, almost all of his posts that I can remember involve trolling in one way or another. Just let him be, we aren't going to change his mind regardless of well thought out responses or reciprocated mud slinging.
Dude could really benefit from a class I am teaching on "Why America and Americans are Superior to Canadians." as well as " Tha Fallacy of Canadian Superiority."
He would emerge a changed and superior man.
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Old 07-17-14, 07:46 PM   #153
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i think this explains the nature of soccer to a t...

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you really have no idea WTF you are talking about do you?
Oh come on, I m sure you can come up with a better way to show your frustration than that... Did I insult your favorite game? Tough. It's what I think of it and I'm entitled to my opinion. Deal with it!
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I think that you're giving yourself far too much credit in assuming that that's a manifestation of frustration (which is probably why he didn't "come up with a better way to show [it]"). I took his post as more of an indication that he was puzzled by your ignorance.
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Bodies? Cyclists will lose to pretty much everyone except American sports athletes like fat basketball, baseball, football. Just saying, pro cyclist physique is disgusting. Froume, well entire team sky have grotesque bodies... Ewww
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I think that you're giving yourself far too much credit in assuming that that's a manifestation of frustration (which is probably why he didn't "come up with a better way to show [it]"). I took his post as more of an indication that he was puzzled by your ignorance.
My ignorance? Interestingly you did NOT find ignorant the earlier post and video about the gay ref...
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Dude could really benefit from a class I am teaching on "Why America and Americans are Superior to Canadians." as well as " Tha Fallacy of Canadian Superiority."
Eh?
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My ignorance? Interestingly you did NOT find ignorant the earlier post and video about the gay ref...
I didn't comment on (or infer) what I personally found to be ignorant or not ignorant.
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Oh come on, I m sure you can come up with a better way to show your frustration than that... Did I insult your favorite game? Tough. It's what I think of it and I'm entitled to my opinion. Deal with it!
Your ignorance is mind blowing, but you are entitled to your opinion no matter how ill informed it is.
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My ignorance? Interestingly you did NOT find ignorant the earlier post and video about the gay ref...
That video was pretty stupid.
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Bodies? Cyclists will lose to pretty much everyone except American sports athletes like fat basketball, baseball, football. Just saying, pro cyclist physique is disgusting. Froume, well entire team sky have grotesque bodies... Ewww
How many fat basketball players do you know of? And outside of a few positions most football players are anything but fat. Baseball I have no excuse for.
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Wouldn't the extra weight of a developed upper body hurt the explosive speed of a soccer player just as much as a cyclist?
Why do sprinters have big upper body then? (Rhetorical question)
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How many fat basketball players do you know of? And outside of a few positions most football players are anything but fat. Baseball I have no excuse for.
Charles Barkley?
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Charles Barkley?
Charles Barkley isn't a basketball player, he's a former basketball player. Jan Ullrich and Greg LeMond are known to be less than skinny too, but that happens when you get old and lazy
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Charles Barkley isn't a basketball player, he's a former basketball player. Jan Ullrich and Greg LeMond are known to be less than skinny too, but that happens when you get old and lazy
True. But, back in the day he was known as small (6'4"-6'6"?) for a forward who was a good rebounder and also considered "chunky."

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True. But, back in the day he was known as small (6'4"-6'6"?) for a forward who was a good rebounder and also considered "chunky."

Legends profile: Charles Barkley | NBA.com
He was known as the round mound of rebounds. His weight wasn't as heavy as most people think.

this is from 1995

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Big Baby Glen Davis?
he's no beanpole, but hardly fat.

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Who is the cyclist in this picture? It's an awesome photo.
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If you are a straight man, why are you watching soccer in the first place?
Best line.
I hate soccer. I tried to like it when the US was being dominated by Brazil. To me its like watching paint dry.

As to the soccer body versus cyclist...must have something to do arm rotating creating leg and running speed which builds the chest. Sprinters in track and field have very powerful upper bodies which I am sure creates their running speed...or contributes to it.

I personally would rather talk about the podium girls.
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During the cup my moron brother in law started in about how stupid and complicated the tournament was and how football and baseball aren't like that. I asked him to explain the BCS and MLB wild card system. He never answered.
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