Hub Upgrade Advice
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Hub Upgrade Advice
I have a wheel set on my current bike and want to upgrade the hubs only. The rims are decent and I want to keep them. I am limited, therefore, by spoke number when it comes to selecting hubs. I need a 24 spoke rear hub and 20 spoke front hub. I haven't found any shimano's that come in this configuration that are in my price range. Can anyone recommend hubs in the $100-150 (per hub) range that are good and will fit with this spoke configuration?
I use my road bike for a mix of Crits, Road races and triathlons (with clip-on aero bars). Crits and road racing are my number one priority, however.
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I use my road bike for a mix of Crits, Road races and triathlons (with clip-on aero bars). Crits and road racing are my number one priority, however.
Cheers,
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Why would you want to do that? What will it help you achieve?
You're probably better off getting a whole new wheelset and keeping the others for spares. JMO since you didn't really provide much detail.
You're probably better off getting a whole new wheelset and keeping the others for spares. JMO since you didn't really provide much detail.
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If you're thinking of reusing the spokes, a different hub may not work as flange spacing and height won't match. Add a bit to your pot, get a new wheelset
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Chances are you will need new spokes if changing hubs, and a full rebuild, will probably end up costing more than a pre-built set. Add to that you need to find a builder who does low spoke count wheels, and you are getting pretty specialized.
For hubs, are you really looking that hard? a quick look on ebay.ca for 24 hole hub rear returns 952 results, filter to your price range and have a look.
For hubs, are you really looking that hard? a quick look on ebay.ca for 24 hole hub rear returns 952 results, filter to your price range and have a look.
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As others are getting at, you'd really need to have awful hubs and amazing rims for this to make any sense.
Do your current hubs maybe just need a little grease, adjustment, and/or bearing TLC?
Do your current hubs maybe just need a little grease, adjustment, and/or bearing TLC?
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It's not that I haven't looked for hubs. That's not the issue. I'm asking for recommendations for GOOD hubs in that price range. 952 results doesn't help me distinguish between quality hubs and chinese knock-offs. I've only dealt with Shimano hubs, since those are my preference. I don't know much about many other brands of hubs out there.
I can build my own wheel set. I'm not worried about that. I also realize I may have to change spokes. Also not an issue. If it were, I would have asked about that too.
I already have a spare set of wheels. Two, in fact.
There is nothing wrong with the current hubs mechanically speaking. They're almost brand new. But they're cheap, heavy and have too much rolling resistance.
I don't mean to sound like a ****** but to be fair, I didn't ask for anyone's opinion about my rims, why I want to upgrade or any of other unsolicited advice, just for some recommendation for hubs with that spoke number.
I can build my own wheel set. I'm not worried about that. I also realize I may have to change spokes. Also not an issue. If it were, I would have asked about that too.
I already have a spare set of wheels. Two, in fact.
There is nothing wrong with the current hubs mechanically speaking. They're almost brand new. But they're cheap, heavy and have too much rolling resistance.
I don't mean to sound like a ****** but to be fair, I didn't ask for anyone's opinion about my rims, why I want to upgrade or any of other unsolicited advice, just for some recommendation for hubs with that spoke number.
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I guess I just thought it wouldn't be so difficult to get a, "I use [insert hub name] and I really like them," answer. But I guess everyone prefers to be a condescending expert.
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How about people are trying to help you but needed more information as the original question was lacking a lot of information.
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Like what? 24 spokes in the rear, 20 in the front. $100-150. I use them mostly for racing. I don't think any other information is necessary than that.
Let's make it easier then.
I have a pair of rims. They're decent rims and they'll be the perfect match for a mid range hub. I need a hub with 24 spokes in the rear and 20 in the front. I have access to every length of standard threaded spoke available in the universe and I'm going to build the wheels myself. I want to use them for racing. Any suggestions for hubs?
Let's make it easier then.
I have a pair of rims. They're decent rims and they'll be the perfect match for a mid range hub. I need a hub with 24 spokes in the rear and 20 in the front. I have access to every length of standard threaded spoke available in the universe and I'm going to build the wheels myself. I want to use them for racing. Any suggestions for hubs?
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Let's make it easier then.
I have a pair of rims. They're decent rims and they'll be the perfect match for a mid range hub. I need a hub with 24 spokes in the rear and 20 in the front. I can use any spoke available in the universe and I'm going to build the wheels myself. I want to use them for racing. Any suggestions for hubs?
I have a pair of rims. They're decent rims and they'll be the perfect match for a mid range hub. I need a hub with 24 spokes in the rear and 20 in the front. I can use any spoke available in the universe and I'm going to build the wheels myself. I want to use them for racing. Any suggestions for hubs?
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Sorry, there is one piece of information that would be necessary. The hubs have to fit standard straight gauge or bladed spokes where the nipple is at the wheel rather than at the hub.
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We get a lot of noobs on here asking questions and find that they don't understand what they are looking for or that there may be possible secondary purchases they may need to make or conflicts that may arise with their bike do to improper choices. There are plenty of directions one could go from where you are so people were trying to guess which might be best.
Your second try, although dripping with sarcasm, will most likely yield a better result.
We sell Novatec hubs. Google them for end user opinions.
Your second try, although dripping with sarcasm, will most likely yield a better result.
We sell Novatec hubs. Google them for end user opinions.
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You can chose what ever lacing pattern you want with the new hubs. The rims seem like standard drilling. You just need to get the spoke calculations right.
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If you haven't seen this review yet, it provides some insight into some of the better hubs out there (not all - but some) for custom builds.
As previously mentioned, if your focus is heavily on saving money, some of the Asian brands can help.
As previously mentioned, if your focus is heavily on saving money, some of the Asian brands can help.
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You claim your hubs are cheap, heavy, and have too much rolling resistance. Cheap as in no name brand, brand you are unfamiliar with, or poor quality materials/machining? How much do they weigh? How exactly did you determine that they have too much rolling resistance? What kind of bearings do they have, loose balls or sealed bearings? A little more insight into exactly what your problems are will yeild much better results around here.
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