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Old 08-14-14, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by badger1
Precisely!
We don't think of you, because you don't matter.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
We don't think of you, because you don't matter.
Hee hee ... that's how we like it!
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by badger1
Hee hee ... that's how we like it!
Cheers!
Trust me, if you had anything we wanted we would just take it.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Trust me, if you had anything we wanted we would just take it.
Water, oil, etc. ... wait, forget I said that.
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Originally Posted by badger1
Water, oil, etc. ... wait, forget I said that.
Exactly. We don't need it yet, so you can take care of it for us.

How would you ever stop us from taking it? Dudley Do-Right would have no chance
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Exactly. We don't need it yet, so you can take care of it for us.

How would you ever stop us from taking it? Dudley Do-Right would have no chance
That's us ... America's pool boys/girls. As to stopping you? Mosquitoes and black flies; you've no idea!!
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Exactly. We don't need it yet, so you can take care of it for us.

How would you ever stop us from taking it? Dudley Do-Right would have no chance
Don't provoke them. They have a formidable psyops unit.

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That's us ... America's pool boys/girls. As to stopping you? Mosquitoes and black flies; you've no idea!!
When we conquer Canada, do we need to take Québec too?
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We have this thread topic every year and each time it ends badly.

I say we agree not to conquer Canada if they take back Celine Dion and Justin Bieber. And send us some back bacon.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
We have this thread topic every year and each time it ends badly.

I say we agree not to conquer Canada if they take back Celine Dion and Justin Bieber. And send us some back bacon.
No ... please ... PLEEEEEAAAASE NO ... not those two! How much back bacon will it cost to persuade you to keep them (and David Foster, and many others I could name)??
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Back on track.

I buy substantially more vintage steel than anything else and my preference is US (California primarily), Italy, the rest of Europe, Japan. My budget, when by current/new bikes generally means the bike comes from Taiwan, though I am getting the itch for a US made custom.

The garage and bike cave currently have the following:
Surly-Taiwan X 3
Trek-Taiwan X1
Trek-Wisconsin X5
DeReus-Hollard X1
Wizard-California X1
Colnago-Italy X1
Eisentraut-California X2
Schwinn-Chicago X2
Schwinn-Mississippi X1
Medici-California X1
Ed Litton-California X1
Joe Hujsak-Texas X1
Nishiki-Japan X1
KHS-Japan X1
Landshark-California X2
Centurion-Japan X2
Santana-California X1
Specialized-Taiwan X1
Scott-Taiwan x1
Kona-Taiwan X1

Current score: US 17, Taiwan 7, Japan 4, Europe 2

Yes, it is a sickness...
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
When we conquer Canada, do we need to take Québec too?
No; I for one would be quite happy if you left la belle province alone.
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Originally Posted by badger1
No; I for one would be quite happy if you left la belle province alone.
That's a deal. The only folks I like less than Canadians....
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are French Canadians.

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Originally Posted by rjones28
My frame was handmade in Taiwan.

Hey, that's exactly what it says on my Marin Bikes shipping box: "Handcrafted in Taiwan."
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
You know what we think of Canadians?
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Answer; We don't ever think of Canadians.
Guys with a fake French accent and a love for poutine.
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Hey, that's exactly what it says on my Marin Bikes shipping box: "Handcrafted in Taiwan."
Because they dont have machines yet.
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Originally Posted by PeregrineA1
Back on track.

I buy substantially more vintage steel than anything else and my preference is US (California primarily), Italy, the rest of Europe, Japan. My budget, when by current/new bikes generally means the bike comes from Taiwan, though I am getting the itch for a US made custom.

The garage and bike cave currently have the following:
Surly-Taiwan X 3
Trek-Taiwan X1
Trek-Wisconsin X5
DeReus-Hollard X1
Wizard-California X1
Colnago-Italy X1
Eisentraut-California X2
Schwinn-Chicago X2
Schwinn-Mississippi X1
Medici-California X1
Ed Litton-California X1
Joe Hujsak-Texas X1
Nishiki-Japan X1
KHS-Japan X1
Landshark-California X2
Centurion-Japan X2
Santana-California X1
Specialized-Taiwan X1
Scott-Taiwan x1
Kona-Taiwan X1

Current score: US 17, Taiwan 7, Japan 4, Europe 2

Yes, it is a sickness...
do you know anything about the ross gran tour ii? I have one of them that I got running and wondering if it's a decent bike.
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do you know anything about the ross gran tour ii? I have one of them that I got running and wondering if it's a decent bike.
Not a thing.
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Originally Posted by slowgo
.... I am a little turned off by the very boutique Italian brands' lower end Asian offerings. Seems like a way to simply put someone own that branded bike, but its not a real Colnago or Pinarello. If I'm going to buy a Colnago or Pinarello, first I'm going to get in better shape so I'm not that guy on the Italian bike getting passed by the lady on a hybrid, and I'm going to invest in one made in Italy.
Don't worry, I'll be that guy.

I have a race bike that was made in Taiwan by a US brand. I'm quite happy with the quality, but it's disappointing that bike frame manufacturing is so globally centralized and that they have to come from half way around the world. It would be nice if the factory were local.

The bike I'm putting together is sort of local, sort of not. My LBS is putting it all together, from a bunch of euro components and a frame made and finished in a couple of small Italian shops. It's an artisanal kind of thing, still intended for racing (and Gran Fondos), yet something of an antithesis of the bike I have now. I'll freely admit that the euro-ness guarantees nothing and serves no purpose except to fulfill my desire for a euro bike. Some would say it's irrational, but this much is a game, and I happen to enjoy it. And while I do shop for good prices, I find the drive to lower prices (the Walmart philosophy) contemptible. I don't buy things in order to "save" money - talk about irrational!

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Originally Posted by PeregrineA1
Back on track.

I buy substantially more vintage steel than anything else and my preference is US (California primarily), Italy, the rest of Europe, Japan. My budget, when by current/new bikes generally means the bike comes from Taiwan, though I am getting the itch for a US made custom.

The garage and bike cave currently have the following:
Surly-Taiwan X 3
Trek-Taiwan X1
Trek-Wisconsin X5
DeReus-Hollard X1
Wizard-California X1
Colnago-Italy X1
Eisentraut-California X2
Schwinn-Chicago X2
Schwinn-Mississippi X1
Medici-California X1
Ed Litton-California X1
Joe Hujsak-Texas X1
Nishiki-Japan X1
KHS-Japan X1
Landshark-California X2
Centurion-Japan X2
Santana-California X1
Specialized-Taiwan X1
Scott-Taiwan x1
Kona-Taiwan X1

Current score: US 17, Taiwan 7, Japan 4, Europe 2

Yes, it is a sickness...
Bike Hoarder!!!! That is a lot of bikes. If I had that many bikes, I would spend more time staring at them trying to figure out which one to ride than I would riding.
I am glad that I get so attached to my bikes as it keeps me from wanting to ride others. Its better for the pocket book and the garage.
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In principle, I'd prefer it be made in my own country.

But then, as with automobiles, parts come from everywhere. It's hard to call a bike French, or Taiwanese or American, these days. Unless you go for a custom-designed and -built bike.

US designed geometry and spec; Taiwanese frame; Japanese components; German fenders and lighting; wheels and tires from wherever ... I'm good with that. The day of all parts and builds being available in a single country is, I think, long gone.
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Originally Posted by Shuffleman
Bike Hoarder!!!! That is a lot of bikes. If I had that many bikes, I would spend more time staring at them trying to figure out which one to ride than I would riding.
I am glad that I get so attached to my bikes as it keeps me from wanting to ride others. Its better for the pocket book and the garage.
Reality is that about 9-10 are in regular rotation for rides. I switch between 3 road bikes depending on mood and type of ride. The commuter gets weekday duty. Tuesday evenings are for single speed MTB and Thursday is for geared MTB. GF switches between a couple of road bikes and her MTB. Tandem gets out once or twice a month. The rest are occasional Sunday cruise or sale stuff (to enable more purchases...).

Hoarding, harsh but technically probably true I like bikes.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Trust me, if you had anything we wanted we would just take it.
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I don't care where there made as long as there well made. That being said I own 2 Italians and a 2 made in Canada by Italians with Italian tubing.
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