Winter ride and gear report
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Winter ride and gear report
This has probably been done before, but I find it instructive to see what people wear in colder conditions. So I'm doing it again.
Temp: 1 (33F)
Time: 1 hr
Gear
Wool socks
Regular shoes
BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (can't recommend these enough--see here)
UnderArmour Coldgear tights
Regular bib shorts
Arm warmers (wife's long socks)
UnderArmour Coldgear long-sleeved shirt
Regular short-sleeved jersey
Wicking long-sleeved shirt
Slightly thick wind resistant racing jacket (so what we have is three fairly thin layers and a jacket)
Thin gloves for moderately cool conditions
Regular fingerless cycling gloves
Claw-style mitts (fingers in 2+2 formation)
Toque (that's Canadian, i.e. winter cap)
Helmet
At the half-hour mark I started to feel a chill in my quads and shins, but that settled down into a standard and very bearable sense of "being out in the cold." The rest of me was more than warm enough. I was most gratified with the lack of chill in my hands and feet. Seems like if you get that covered, you're good to go. I used to buy those chemical toe warmers for cold days, but that was before I discovered wool socks and the BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (I have no relationship with the company, but I'm shilling hard for them--they're awesome).
Temp: 1 (33F)
Time: 1 hr
Gear
Wool socks
Regular shoes
BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (can't recommend these enough--see here)
UnderArmour Coldgear tights
Regular bib shorts
Arm warmers (wife's long socks)
UnderArmour Coldgear long-sleeved shirt
Regular short-sleeved jersey
Wicking long-sleeved shirt
Slightly thick wind resistant racing jacket (so what we have is three fairly thin layers and a jacket)
Thin gloves for moderately cool conditions
Regular fingerless cycling gloves
Claw-style mitts (fingers in 2+2 formation)
Toque (that's Canadian, i.e. winter cap)
Helmet
At the half-hour mark I started to feel a chill in my quads and shins, but that settled down into a standard and very bearable sense of "being out in the cold." The rest of me was more than warm enough. I was most gratified with the lack of chill in my hands and feet. Seems like if you get that covered, you're good to go. I used to buy those chemical toe warmers for cold days, but that was before I discovered wool socks and the BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (I have no relationship with the company, but I'm shilling hard for them--they're awesome).
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You're right ... it has been done before. In the Winter Cycling forum:
Winter Cycling
In fact, there are two Stickies of exactly this topic.
Winter Cycling
In fact, there are two Stickies of exactly this topic.
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Well, being a rider of a road bike, and this being the road forum, it's of particular interest to hear what gear roadies are using on their road bikes. This being the road forum and all.
One, two or several hours on a road bike is obviously a different animal from mountain biking, commuting or touring. Thus my post.
One, two or several hours on a road bike is obviously a different animal from mountain biking, commuting or touring. Thus my post.
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Well, being a rider of a road bike, and this being the road forum, it's of particular interest to hear what gear roadies are using on their road bikes. This being the road forum and all.
One, two or several hours on a road bike is obviously a different animal from mountain biking, commuting or touring. Thus my post.
One, two or several hours on a road bike is obviously a different animal from mountain biking, commuting or touring. Thus my post.
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You can see the logic at work here.
In any case, back to the topic at hand.
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Temp: cold
Time: 2hrs
Gear: singlespeed
Was cold, rode faster, got warm, rode slower
I was riding a road bike on the road that I have ridden many times, it was a nice ride
I felt like a roadie
Am I posting in the correct forum?
Time: 2hrs
Gear: singlespeed
Was cold, rode faster, got warm, rode slower
I was riding a road bike on the road that I have ridden many times, it was a nice ride
I felt like a roadie
Am I posting in the correct forum?
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It felt a bit wintry last night, but we've still got a month or more until winter really starts. It will be interesting to try out a few rides below zero. I tend to lose interest once it hits freezing, but this year I'm going to give it a go.
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There are basically three areas that I worry about when I ride in temps approaching freezing: ears, fingers, and toes. A thin cap/earwarmer band under the helmet works well with the ears. Mittens work better than gloves, always have. I discovered this years ago running in -25C winter weather. As for toes, I just ordered BBB shoe covers. Anything that covers the feet on the outside to keep the wind out will help the toes.
The rest of the body doesn't get too cold. I don't intend to ride in weather colder than freezing. But who knows, if zero is bearable, maybe -2 is okay too.
The rest of the body doesn't get too cold. I don't intend to ride in weather colder than freezing. But who knows, if zero is bearable, maybe -2 is okay too.
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This has probably been done before, but I find it instructive to see what people wear in colder conditions. So I'm doing it again.
Temp: 1 (33F)
Time: 1 hr
Gear
Wool socks
Regular shoes
BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (can't recommend these enough--see here)
UnderArmour Coldgear tights
Regular bib shorts
Arm warmers (wife's long socks)
UnderArmour Coldgear long-sleeved shirt
Regular short-sleeved jersey
Wicking long-sleeved shirt
Slightly thick wind resistant racing jacket (so what we have is three fairly thin layers and a jacket)
Thin gloves for moderately cool conditions
Regular fingerless cycling gloves
Claw-style mitts (fingers in 2+2 formation)
Toque (that's Canadian, i.e. winter cap)
Helmet
At the half-hour mark I started to feel a chill in my quads and shins, but that settled down into a standard and very bearable sense of "being out in the cold." The rest of me was more than warm enough. I was most gratified with the lack of chill in my hands and feet. Seems like if you get that covered, you're good to go. I used to buy those chemical toe warmers for cold days, but that was before I discovered wool socks and the BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (I have no relationship with the company, but I'm shilling hard for them--they're awesome).
Temp: 1 (33F)
Time: 1 hr
Gear
Wool socks
Regular shoes
BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (can't recommend these enough--see here)
UnderArmour Coldgear tights
Regular bib shorts
Arm warmers (wife's long socks)
UnderArmour Coldgear long-sleeved shirt
Regular short-sleeved jersey
Wicking long-sleeved shirt
Slightly thick wind resistant racing jacket (so what we have is three fairly thin layers and a jacket)
Thin gloves for moderately cool conditions
Regular fingerless cycling gloves
Claw-style mitts (fingers in 2+2 formation)
Toque (that's Canadian, i.e. winter cap)
Helmet
At the half-hour mark I started to feel a chill in my quads and shins, but that settled down into a standard and very bearable sense of "being out in the cold." The rest of me was more than warm enough. I was most gratified with the lack of chill in my hands and feet. Seems like if you get that covered, you're good to go. I used to buy those chemical toe warmers for cold days, but that was before I discovered wool socks and the BBB ArcticDuty overshoes (I have no relationship with the company, but I'm shilling hard for them--they're awesome).
Layers - thin or not so thin - is the key, I have to agree, but I can't imagine having three layers on my hands.... Don't the two others provide enough padding and protection that you could skip the fingerless gloves?
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I did training rides and races on some of the coldest days last year, and I think I might have gotten that bundled up when it was 16F/-9C. I found basic DeFeet wool gloves to be surprisingly effective - comfy from mid 50s F down to freezing temps. A wool sweater under a shell of a jacket goes a long way, too. Craft toe covers were sufficient over warm-weather shoes through the whole winter - maybe wore two pair of socks on the coldest days.
Layers - thin or not so thin - is the key, I have to agree, but I can't imagine having three layers on my hands.... Don't the two others provide enough padding and protection that you could skip the fingerless gloves?
Layers - thin or not so thin - is the key, I have to agree, but I can't imagine having three layers on my hands.... Don't the two others provide enough padding and protection that you could skip the fingerless gloves?
Those DeFeet Gloves basically look like the thin gloves I'm wearing, but they don't give any wind resistance, I don't think. That's what the claw-style/lobster-style gloves are for. I could actually go without the fingerless cycling gloves, but somehow I like wearing them. My hands don't feel constrained or anything.
Those upper body layers are thin. One of them is a summer-weight jersey. Which, when you think about it, is actually pretty useless as a winter layer, right? I think I put it on out of habit.
But why bother with winter-shoes and extra pairs of socks when you can stick with your regular summer shoes and socks and just get something like the BBB ArcticDuty (shill alert!) overshoes? These are the best overshoes I've ever had, and I'm now on my third pair. The material is different, and they're a bit thicker than regular overshoes. The keep me warm enough that the chemical toe warmers aren't necessary.
Check out what the diehards are wearing on a Donut Ride in Toronto in December when it was -5 out (23F):
I still find it amazing to see riders in their regular summer kit finishing on mountaintops in the Giro where temps are 0 degrees or lower. Ryder Hesjedal had one in 2012 where it was -1. I'm in awe.
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I love winter cycling. For me it means 2 months of wearing knee warmers, a long sleeve base layer, and maybe a windshell over my normal kit. Toe covers also come in handy on the brutally cold mornings.
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We opted not to ride today ... but I did wear a rain jacket during my usual daily walks.
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It doesn't get much colder than freezing where I live. For these temperatures, I wear basic thermal tights over cycling shorts, long sleeved base layer and a short sleeved jersey under a basic windproof shell, windproof overshoes, long fingered cycling or ski gloves and a winter cap under the helmet. The problem area is my forehead/sinuses that get super sensitive to wind. I'm thinking about getting something like ski goggles for this, but I need some that will work with a cycling helmet and are usable at night.
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It has to be hovering around 0 degrees (30F) for January and February for it to be winter. You don't have a real winter, yours is just pretend. It's like you're playing at winter. I'd be embarrassed to call "wearing knee warmers" a sign of winter if I were you, mate.
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Btw I'll be sure to let you know when I first need to use the knee warmers.
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May I put in a good word for my Gore Phantom winter jacket. It's wind resistant, it breathes remarkably well, and I can zip off the sleeves and end up with a short-sleeved jersey if it warms up during the day. I wear a wool singlet, a lightweight wool long-sleeved jersey and the jacket, and I'm good to freezing.
Below that I rarely ride.
Below that I rarely ride.
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Layers, appropriate for the conditions and the rider.
It takes some experimentation to figure out what's appropriate.
It takes some experimentation to figure out what's appropriate.
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Yeah, experimentation - like today, it was low 50s and I figured I'd try out the cool weather jacket that just arrived - (last year's model Giordana formared carbon (what a silly name!) at great discount!). It didn't seem too winter-y, but I figured it would be fairly warm, so I wore it with a flimsy nylon base layer - at least to keep the jacket fresh, you know. Fairly warm? I was burning up!
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I'm feeling warm enough with the kit in the original post above, save for my legs. By the end of my hour-long ride in freezing temps my quads and calves are cold to the point of being uncomfortable.
I'm guessing that UnderArmour Coldgear tights are probably supposed to be an internal layer, and not be exposed the way I'm using them. Would anybody happen to have any recommendations for tights and/or leg warms that you swear by for freezing temps?
I'm guessing that UnderArmour Coldgear tights are probably supposed to be an internal layer, and not be exposed the way I'm using them. Would anybody happen to have any recommendations for tights and/or leg warms that you swear by for freezing temps?
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I wear PI Elite Thermal Barrier tights in those temps when it's dry and down to about 40° in the rain. For colder temps, I wear Performance T.r.i.f.l.e.x tights.
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Thin toe covers, midweight Capiline under tights, Ultimax wool blend socks, midweight Capiline top next to skin, long sleeve P-I jersey next, Gore cycling jacket over that. Giro gloves. If things get grim a PI skullcap.
The Gore jacket is pretty excellent. It has a broad usable range of temps and conditions. I like:
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...er-anyone.html
The Gore jacket is pretty excellent. It has a broad usable range of temps and conditions. I like:
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...er-anyone.html
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I'm thinking I'll definitely need to double up the layers on my legs when it gets below zero. The freezing mark really does seem to be the rubicon for me.
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I keep thinking about using my arm warmers, but have been able to hold off by riding after 9am when the sun warms the air up to 60F.
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I had to take my knee warmers and toe covers off today because it was too warm.