wanderoo222

Looking for tires for stans ztr alpha 340 rims. Is 17 mm considered a wide rim or average?

BoSoxYacht

17mm is above "average" for traditional road hoops, but very slightly less than some of the other modern(wider) hoops. I use 23mm tires on mine, but 25mm will also work well(especially if you are a heavy person).

jimc101

I'm running a 400, which has the same profile (external) as a 340, currently with a 25mm tire, previously with a 24mm, would be happy running anything from 23-28mm, although what you can run will depend on the frame clearances more than the rim's capability.

For the 340 rim width, it's 20mm external, which is wider than say an Open Pro, but narrow vs the latest rims like the Grail, or a H Plus Son Archetype which are 23-24mm

canam73

17mm inner width would be in with the A23s and Hed C2 crowd of 'wide rims'. But part of their 23mm appeal is that they create an aero package with a matching 23mm tire. The Stans is only 20mm wide externally, so unless you want to go with really skinny tires you will have to forgo that part. But you will still be able to get the straighter sidewall and wider contact patch the extra internal width gives with a 23 or 25mm tire.

kv501

Did you get the rims super cheap or something that you don't want 23/25mm tires? The selection in that size is going to be a lot more limited, and I personally think 20mm tires and smaller feel pretty iffy when riding. Used to be the trend to go as narrow as possible, but there isn't really any rolling resistance/grip benefit from it. Some people even cite tests that say 23 is faster. To me the pinch flat risk and sketchy cornering wouldn't be worth it.

wanderoo222

I'll be running a 25 to 28. Looking to replace my askium wheelset with the stans 340 or 400 wheelset. I can get a deal on them today.

Carbonfiberboy 

28mm tires on 17mm inner width works fine. I've run 23-28mm, but not wider.

jimc101

Are you planning to run tubeless or with tubes? Tubeless, you are limited on choice regardless of the size you want to run, a few options from Hutchinson, Bontrager and Schwalbe One's, not alot out there yet...

Looigi

Note that tires will measure wider than nominal when installed on wider rims, so check to make sure you have enough clearance.

Psimet2001 

I was hoping this was going to be a high brow thread about how silly some of the discussions about width have gotten these days. Alas I find it's a real question.

OP - the Stans stuff is "regular" road rim width. Not "wide". Neither of these terms really means anything though. This was not a thing or even a point of discussion until the marketing associated with a new crop of 23mm wide rims occurred in the last 4-5 years. Before then we just called them rims.

The Stans rims are just rims. They are road rims. Use road tires on them. Use whatever size you want to that will still fit into your frame and under your brakes.

FWIW - ....we still run cross tires on "normal" rims. They are 33mm wide. They'll be just fine.

Jiggle

I run 35mm cx tires on a 15mm inner width rim. Works fine.

LesterOfPuppets

Same here. I'd say "mostly" works fine, though. They roll over a bit at lower pressures.

canam73

Curious, what were you just calling "rims" that had an internal width of 17mm or more?


Before the new crop you speak of, most (all?) of the popular AL clincher road race rims had an internal width of ~14mm. Mavic Open Pro and CXP series, Velocity Aerohead, early Kinlins, Sun M13. Until the HED C2 and Zipp 101 stuff pretty much all factory wheels were in that boat, too. Anything wider than that was thought of as a touring or, for the love of god, a "sport" rim.


I'm not saying that was a good thing. It's just that anyone who came into the sport since the late 80's (this would include you, no?) would have caught the line of thinking of "thinner is more aero". I myself was unlucky enough that my first new road bike came with 21mm Avocet tires on 13mm internal width Araya rims. They had to be rock hard to not get pinch flats and road like crap always.

Psimet2001 

Nope...I started riding and dabbling in racing in 1987-1988. I never cared about the width of my rims and could run any road tire I ever wanted. Sure wider rims feel nice but you can run wide tires on just about any rim under the sun.

OP - ride whatever tire will fit that you like. Your rim width will not limit your tire selections nearly as much as the frame will.

canam73

Wasn't 1987-88 in the late 80's?

Other than that, I fail to see where you addressed my question. You don't have too, but since you quoted me I assumed you intended to.

MikeyBoyAz

looks like he did to me

canam73

Reading. Yayyyy!

MikeyBoyAz

::facepalm:: sorry. I thought he stated OP meaning Opening Post, clarifying that he was answering the original question in the first post and perhaps calling it quits.

wanderoo222

I'm going to use tubes. May go tubeless at some point but not anytime soon.

wanderoo222

Really good info here people,Thanks. I mean it. I'm going with the Stans 340 disc wheelset. May even try 28mm tires. I don't race. I just want lighter wheels than the anchors I have now, Aksium one disc wheelset that weigh 1965g without tires. The stans can be had for 4 bills and weigh 1620g.

Bunyanderman

You could really go anything from 22mm-40mm if you wanted. 25mm is turning to be the standard, maybe 22/23 for racing, or 28mm for relaxed riding.