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Old 11-19-14, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
But only since the last two weeks coincidentally with the Forskolin? And no diet over that time, less exercise, etc.
I googled it. WebMd does not mention anything that sounds like it would lead to weight loss.
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Originally Posted by Herbie53
I googled it. WebMd does not mention anything that sounds like it would lead to weight loss.
Curiouser and curiouser. Stay tuned. This is far from over.
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In two weeks you lost five pounds. In about 69 weeks you will disappear.
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Old 11-19-14, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug28450
In two weeks you lost five pounds. In about 69 weeks you will disappear.
From your lips to God's ears.
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I would rather get health tips from coasting than from an email.
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Old 11-19-14, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Are you homeless?
renting a place that is not exactly suitable.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
"Speed. The tiny blue diet pill you don’t have to be overweight to need. Why not ask your family doctor for a prescription today? And when that runs out, you can ask your neighbor’s doctor. And your mother’s doctor. And your college roommate’s doctor. And your best friend from high school’s doctor. And your babysitter’s doctor . . "
...as a survivor from the age of "diet pills", I can testify that dextroamphetamine can induce significant weight loss. And hallucinations.
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weight loss is weird. when i consciously make the effort, it won't shift. when i get distracted and don't have time for eating consciously, i lose weight quickly.
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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
I rode the Noah for a couple of days. Not bad. I'd compare it to my SLC Cervelo. Both similar to riding a wooden saw horse.... Seriously
Was it the front end or the back end that was too stiff? Or a combination of both?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I would rather get health tips from coasting than from an email.
What about emailed health tips from @coasting?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
About three weeks ago I received a suspicious email, nominally from an acquaintance I don't communicate with often, but most likely the result of a raid on her email contact list.
I got that email. And continue to get that email.
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Good ride today. Conditions were more typical for January or February, with temps in the 20's for most of the ride. We had a total of 5 riders which is half our usual but enough to make it a group ride. Winter pace, we took a little shortcut and ended up with 45 miles.

My bottle did not freeze. I do recall problems with it freezing at the spout last year when temps were in the teens.
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Originally Posted by datlas

My bottle did not freeze. I do recall problems with it freezing at the spout last year when temps were in the teens.
...just mix in some everclear as antifreeze. Problem solved.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Can anyone help me understand this?

Long story, so buckle up for the ride!

At 5' 7.5" I am satisfied when I can keep my weight around 160 lb or my BMI just below 25. About a year ago I started gaining weight and for the last 6 months or so have been around 173 lb. Feeble attempts at low carb, moderate fat dieting haven't had the same success I was used to from the past. The testosterone injections I started about 7 months ago (not specifically for this reason) seemed to help me stabilize the weight and start to build a little muscle, but I still haven't been able to get any weight off. Admittedly the attempts have been half-hearted, but still...

A couple of months of heavy (for me) cycling activity (>100 miles per week for about 8 weeks in a row) was also helping me to keep my weight constant, but that came to an end a couple of weeks ago with the first cold spell this year in Houston. Wussy or not, I just don't like cycling in the cold or even moderately cool weather. And I just haven't yet gotten desperate enough to start on the indoor trainer though I have really been concerned that I would start to see the weight rising again.

About three weeks ago I received a suspicious email, nominally from an acquaintance I don't communicate with often, but most likely the result of a raid on her email contact list. It had a brief greeting and the recommendation to follow an internet link to something I "just have to see". At this point I didn't recognize the message wasn't from my friend and followed the link. Luckily I was on my iPhone, not my computer in case something really bad might have happened. What I found was an advertisement for a dietary supplement "Forskolin" (coleus forskohli root extract) that is supposed to impart magical weight loss properties. I didn't want to deal with the suspicious web site so I searched for the product and found it on Amazon. I think $17 for a 30 day supply. It was endorsed on the Amazon listing by several celebrities. I know, this is sounding really and classically stupid, but for some reason I just got an itch and decided for $17 (30 days) to try it. As an experimental scientist, I felt even the expected failure would be a learning experience.

So two weeks into the "therapy", I am 5 lb lighter with no other dietary changes. I suspect some diuretic effect is included in that weight loss, but nowhere near 5 lb. And the weight loss didn't occur all at once as I would have expected from a diuretic. I have been losing very gradually every day.

I have been doing some floor exercises and dumbbell work but no cardio workouts for the entire period. I'm eating a full range of foods including animal protein and moderate amounts of carbs and fat. Sandwich (which I crave) for lunch instead of a mandatory salad. Small dessert after dinner. Actually a diet I am very comfortable with for the long haul, but not one that usually brings about weight loss.

This whole episode is so out of character for me. Can anybody tell me this is really possible? Other ideas? Am I dreaming? I feel like Jack the morning after he planted the beans.

No, I'm neither trolling nor shilling. Just hoping someone might be able to shed some light on this.
I would assume that you've been slowly gaining muscle over the previous seven months due to the testosterone. Those gains would also slowly increase the rate at which you burn calories and would explain the relative weight equilibrium until the presumed tipping point a few weeks ago. The changing muscle/fat balance obviously wouldn't be apparent to you based solely upon BMI - you would have had to track it with calipers, displacement or electrical impedance, etc.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
What about emailed health tips from @coasting?
How do you think I got on this awesome diet?
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...just mix in some everclear as antifreeze. Problem solved.
There was an excellent thread about what to put in your bottle. The problem seemed to be balancing how often a beverage froze vs. how often it encouraged the rider to pee.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I would assume that you've been slowly gaining muscle over the previous seven months due to the testosterone. Those gains would also slowly increase the rate at which you burn calories and would explain the relative weight equilibrium until the presumed tipping point a few weeks ago. The changing muscle/fat balance obviously wouldn't be apparent to you based solely upon BMI - you would have had to track it with calipers, displacement or electrical impedance, etc.
Yes, you are right. I have been putting on SOME muscle. Not a bunch, but some. And it could be exactly as you say. I know that adding muscle makes weight control lots easier. I will definitely consider that as I watch my progress. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by coasting
weight loss is weird. when i consciously make the effort, it won't shift. when i get distracted and don't have time for eating consciously, i lose weight quickly.
the divorce and then working in the service department of the dealership ended up being a pretty good weightloss plan for a while.

i've since gone back up a hole in my belt. so it goes.
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What's this gaining weight thing? I just don't get it...
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Ironically, it did not snow much at the airport (the official GSB measurement location). GoldenSnowball.com
Already got four days of "T" here, so we're getting an early jump in the standings this year.
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U.S. premiere for the next Bond film will be November 6, 2015 so mark your calendars now. Lea Seydoux from "The Grand Budapest Hotel", "Blue is the Warmest Color" and "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol" has been announced as the newest Bond Girl. She also stars in this:

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Wow.
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Lea Seydoux from "The Grand Budapest Hotel", "Blue is the Warmest Color" and "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol" has been announced as the newest Bond Girl.
Who's your favourite Bond girl?
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Wow.
yeah
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If I maintain my autoimmune disease and stay on coasting's diet and take daily Forskolin injections and get divorced, I will eventually be not too fat for this sport.
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