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Old 01-26-15, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
All this talk about snow. Doesn't anyone care about us people vacationing in Florida with 35 mph winds? How ami going to get another 220 miles this week with conditions like this?
Ummmm, yeah.......

Over in Altamonte Springs stuck in meetings for a few days. And no bike.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...can you get wine in North Dakota ? Good wine, I mean.
Good whine, more likely.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...isn't the right to ball manipulation covered under the Bill of Rights ?
Declaration of Independence.

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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
Is there any chance the 12th was coincidentally the kicking ball?
The kicking balls are different all together.

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.....how do all these professional athletes get away with handling, warming, and otherwise manipulating (I presume this included scratching) their balls on national television ? #shocked
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Haha, can you believe it? I am in a conversation about football of all things.
I swapped out the rear tire and QR skewer on the Allez, in preparation for Wednesday's Computrainer session.
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
And how do only 11 of the 12 get deflated. I don't know how it works, though. Is there any chance the 12th was coincidentally the kicking ball?
The 12th one is the one they offered up for pregame inspection.
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Old 01-26-15, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I swapped out the rear tire and QR skewer on the Allez, in preparation for Wednesday's Computrainer session.
You got one of them orange trainer tyres?

I think a spare rear wheel is called for here.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Renewal for DEA license. Whew.
Can dogs get MMJ cards?
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Sounds reasonable to me, but like you, I don't know anything about football psi or who's responsibility it is to check.
The tubes I've been running on the Allez hold air pretty well. The bike's been sitting for two months and the tires are still firm.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...how do all these professional athletes get away with handling, warming, and otherwise manipulating (I presume this included scratching) their balls on national television ? #shocked
What's the parental rating for televised football?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
You got one of them orange trainer tyres?
Nope. I just put a less expensive tire on - took off the Continental and put on a Serfas.


I think a spare rear wheel is called for here.
Hmm.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
The tubes I've been running on the Allez hold air pretty well. The bike's been sitting for two months and the tires are still firm.
Did you rub them?
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Nope. I just put a less expensive tire on - took off the Continental and put on a Serfas.




Hmm.
I use my old Conti GP4000 take offs. Perfect way to squeeze the last few miles out of them.
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Old 01-26-15, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
..Bottom line is does anyone really care and if it was so important then why during games were footballs not randomly checked for air pressure?
Apparently someone DID check at least one ball during the game, that's how the issue was discovered. Fact of the matter is, here's an OCD coach who will do anything to win, and has shown time and again that he's willing to cheat to do so, if necessary.

What if the whole league started looking and finding ways to cheat? The league would become much like the pro cycling league, with rampant uncontrolled cheating, playing on insignificant networks you have to hunt down and pray you find on some remote channel. A fringe sport. Then, without football, what will become of America? Watch hockey? I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Apparently someone DID check at least one ball during the game, that's how the issue was discovered. Fact of the matter is, here's an OCD coach who will do anything to win, and has shown time and again that he's willing to cheat to do so, if necessary.

What if the whole league started looking and finding ways to cheat? The league would become much like the pro cycling league, with rampant uncontrolled cheating, playing on insignificant networks you have to hunt down and pray you find on some remote channel. A fringe sport. Then, without football, what will become of America? Watch hockey? I don't think so.
What if?
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Originally Posted by BillyD

What if the whole league started looking and finding ways to cheat?
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What if?

...what if they actually started randomized steroid testing in the pro football ranks, and enforced the "rules" barring their use ? #sad_day
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and that's all I'm gonna say about that
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yes, the Pats won. The balls were properly inflated during halftime, and the Pats still outscored the Colts 28-0 in the second half. It really is a non-story - if it were anyone but the Pats, there would be zero uproar. Did you hear the big scandal when the Vikings were caught illegally warming their balls (har har) earlier this year in a cold outdoor game? Nope, you didn't. They did it. They got caught. It was given the deserved amount of scrutiny. It's just that people don't get butt hurt over the Vikes.
The allegations are that this was going on much further back than just the AFC championship game. This is also relevant to their image in the media as the "model franchise" and "best organization in sports" (and the holier-than-thou attitude from the fans). Cheating when you don't have to just makes you look insecure and pathetic. After Spygate, Kraft asked Belichick how much of a difference it made, on a scale of 1-100. "One" was the answer. "Then you're a schmuck" was the reply. What does it say about a person, or an organization, when they cheat when they don't even have to?

And the NFL is being pathetic. The NCAA, much of an issue as I have with them, would say the magic words "lack of institutional control" and come down like the wrath of an angry god. We know the footballs were deflated. We know it didn't happen by accident. In my industry, in banking, breaking the rules goes all the way up the chain, and the Congressional Banking Committee won't listen to "I don't know what happened"; punishment would come down hard. This simpering hand-wringing makes me sick.

Liars, cheaters, and murderer. If the Patriots were treated as the "just win baby" Raiders of old I wouldn't mind half as much.
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The first post that I saw on FB this morning was a paragraph-long diatribe that started with,

Seriously . . . I am sick to DEATH about hearing grown adults whining on their Facebook pages!!
I read through the entire rant wondering if it was tongue-in-cheek or, failing that, to see if there was even a hint of self-awareness... it wasn't and there wasn't.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug

In my industry, in banking, breaking the rules goes all the way up the chain, and the Congressional Banking Committee won't listen to "I don't know what happened"; punishment would come down hard. This simpering hand-wringing makes me sick.
You might want to rerun the tapes for '08 & '09 before using banking as an example of what happens when rules are broken.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The allegations are that this was going on much further back than just the AFC championship game. This is also relevant to their image in the media as the "model franchise" and "best organization in sports" (and the holier-than-thou attitude from the fans). Cheating when you don't have to just makes you look insecure and pathetic. After Spygate, Kraft asked Belichick how much of a difference it made, on a scale of 1-100. "One" was the answer. "Then you're a schmuck" was the reply. What does it say about a person, or an organization, when they cheat when they don't even have to?

And the NFL is being pathetic. The NCAA, much of an issue as I have with them, would say the magic words "lack of institutional control" and come down like the wrath of an angry god. We know the footballs were deflated. We know it didn't happen by accident. In my industry, in banking, breaking the rules goes all the way up the chain, and the Congressional Banking Committee won't listen to "I don't know what happened"; punishment would come down hard. This simpering hand-wringing makes me sick.

Liars, cheaters, and murderer. If the Patriots were treated as the "just win baby" Raiders of old I wouldn't mind half as much.
And my point is that the only thing unique about the situation is the amount of fan outrage directed at the team. Hell, the Saints won the SuperBowl on the back of an organized head-hunting scheme with the sole purpose of injuring select opposing players. Yes, the NFL came down on them (with the mountain of evidence against them, they couldn't), but fan reaction was decidedly "meh." Meanwhile, for a non-story like "DeflateGate," there are actually fans calling for sanctions like suspending Belichick for the title game or even vacating wins, etc. I mean, for the love of Pete, let's get a grip.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...what if they actually started randomized steroid testing in the pro football ranks, and enforced the "rules" barring their use ? #sad_day
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