chaadster

Huh? Sure it does...lawyer tabs do not change the location of the brake release or the qr lever, nor do they inhibit me from using my other hand, either!

chaadster

This is the most compelling rationale!

Bradleykd

That is how I do it. Open the brake release with my right hand, and QR with my left at the same time, then move down the fork with the right hand to spin the nut.

OldsCOOL

It just looks right having levers on the same side. Yeah, that's the only reason.

RollCNY

This is just my opinion, but I believe that there was historically a great deal of paranoia about the accidental opening of quick releases. When I worked at an LBS in the '80's, not only was it stressed that the lever be on the NDS, but that it be folded very closely to the frame. By both levers being on the NDS, you only had to worry about shielding one side of your bike from a stick or debris that might actuate the lever. Riding in a pack, with a wheel overlap, there is no chance for one wheels lever to catch on another wheels lever if all wheels are NDS.

I am not saying any of this is valid, only my opinion.

chaadster

Someone is going to have to explain to me how that's supposed to work!

I mean, I get how, if the wheel contact is on the DS, having levers NDS are shielded, but what happens if the wheel contact is also NDS with the levers?!

I also learned, many years ago, the same lesson about orienting the levers close to the frame; parallel to the fork leg, and between the stays.

RollCNY

I am not saying that it would happen, but if a front wheel hits a rear wheel, and all skewers are NDS, one wheel lever could be flipped open but both wheels could not be. If your front wheel is DS lever, and you hit the NDS of a rear wheel, I think the thought may have been that two wheels could go bouncing down the road. Again, not saying it is plausible, but just looking through my 1980 retro-paranoid goggles.

merlinextraligh

your point, as I understood it was that there was an advantage to have the QR lever and brake quick release on the same side because your hand was already on that side.

My point is that there's no advantage because you have to use a hand on each side. So the hand that does the brake QR continues down the fork to turn, or hold the nut. It doesn't matter if the hand you use to open the brake QR continues on to open the lever, or turn the nut; you still have to have a hand on both sides of the wheel, regardless of how the QR lever is oriented.

chaadster

Oh, what you wrote was that there was no chance for one wheel's lever to catch another [overlapping wheel's] lever, but you meant there's no possibility for both bikes to have their respective levers flipped open simultaneously by the levers themselves... oh wait, I think that's the same thing; I guess I'd misunderstood.

I'd always assumed the lever opening concern came from spokes getting hooked on the lever, and I'd not thought about lever-to-lever contact, but I suppose it could happen.

That right there may be the kernel of wisdom I was wondering about!

Thinking about it, my orientation with the lever parallel to the fork DS, and rear lever between the stays, is probably one of the most dangerous combos for lever/lever contact. I'll probably change my habit for that reason.

Thanks, RollCNY

StanSeven

Lawyer lips, not tabs. Let's get the terminology correct.

Sorry, ML. I know you are one. But you're too reasonable for me to consider you a real one.

Bah Humbug

Run a wide rim and you never have to release the brake's QR.

fietsbob

Roadie thread... Team and Neutral Race Support demand it be predictable or you will lose time in wheel changes
for the mechanic to remove and turn the skewer around Just For Your quirky demands ..





Its on the right side if the left blade has a disc Brake , clearance is Better to close the Lever ..

But My disc brake Bike has a Hex Socket bolt skewers, any How , so no lever at all .

milkbaby

My observation: Winter must suck wherever most of y'all live.

scott967

For me having QR on the same side of all wheels makes it easy to install tire in correct direction.

scott s.
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drider85

You run the QR on the NDS for the same reason you line up the logo on the tire with (or opposite to) the valve stem.

chaadster

The qr levers help me quickly locate the valve stems? Okaaaay....

Stucky

But dude, there's a 1 in 360 chance that the QR will be pointing to the valve stem!!! It's gotta be right at least some time....

02Giant 

Slow week on Bike Forums...

chaadster

Yeah, no sh*t; it's drawing out the Iowans.

Reynolds 

"Why do you use your skewer on the NDS?"
"Because my father did it that way"
"And why did your father do it that way?"
"Because his father did it that way"

Stucky

If it gets any worse, a leg-shaving thread is going to break-out!

wants185s

Exactly! Bad winter weather, less time on the bike, more time to write crap. Two days generated two pages on this subject.

chaadster

Well, I'm proud to say that I learned something and changed my ways as a result.

It's unfortunate you were unable to either profit or contribute.

khuon

This reminds me of a story my wife was telling me about something she heard at a lecture about tradition. As the story goes, the storyteller, a woman cooking Thanksgiving dinner was given to always cutting off the ends of the ham and giving them to the dog before serving the dinner. When her daughter questioned her on this, her response was that was what her mother had always done and that it was tradition. So the daughter, being of the inquisitive type went and asked the grandmother why she would cut the ends off and serve them to the dog. Her great grandmother gave the same response... her grandmother's mother had always done that. So the daughter went to the great-grandmother (who was still alive) and asked the same question. Her great-grandmother's response was that she had a serving dish that was only so large and when she went to serve ham at a Thanksgiving dinner ages ago, she couldn't fit it on the serving tray so she cut the ends off. The family dog at the time happened to be in the kitchen and looking longingly at all the prepared food so she felt generous and gave him the end pieces of the ham.

So what's the moral of the story here?

Maybe it's that things carry over because there was once a valid reason but also that sometimes there no longer has to be rhyme or reason as long as everyone is fed and happy... including the dog.

Bob Ross

I like multitasking, it makes the job go by quicker: I open the brake release with one hand while I open the wheel quick-release lever with the other.