garysol1 

I have never noticed this. Can you provide some links??
I would "think" that a professional would want to train on a bike that at least shifts the same as their race bike. I would think going back and forth from SRAM to Shimano could pose a potential moment of confusion at a very bad time.

lsberrios1 

I wonder if they can come up with the technology that recharges the battery by the power generated by the rider. Not sure if the average 150watt/hr will be enough to keep it charged though...

rpenmanparker 

Only with a lot of wires.

lsberrios1 

+ a lot of hamster wheels if the human is too anemic

softreset

If there's one thing SRAM groups have demonstrated to me on the sales floor is that there's an 90-95% chance that my test drive will come back with: "The bike doesn't shift right."

Yes, even with a detailed explanation and a demonstration.

Campag4life

That's an indictment against 'you' and not Sram based upon your inability to set up a Sram bike properly.

I will take Red 22 over DA 9000 any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The best riders at my local shop all ride Sram.

softreset

Hardly. Especially considering I don't setup bikes. Rather it speaks to most people's prior experience to Shimano shifting and unfamiliarity with the uniqueness of SRAM's DoubleTap.

We all know you prefer anything to DA 9000, you frequently remind us.

GlennR

I've ridden both and like the Sram shifters better. I just find it more intuitive.

And i agree that if your Sram derailleurs are not shifting correctly, it's the setup. Because if it was a product wide problem, the pros would not use it.

DXchulo

Have any examples of that?

dalava

The "DA 9000 has sharp edges" man strikes again

Seriously, I've been looking hard for those sharp edges you've been talking about, and all I can find is nothing sharper than an iPhone edge, and certainly not sharp enough to cut me even if I am sprinting with a death grip and shifting at the same time.

GlennR

I've seen videos of riders on training rides with one and pictures/videos racing on the other.

I have no smoking ***, if that's what you're looking for.

andr0id

Remember when telephones were simple *mechanical* devices?

Nope? they have always been electrical and need electronics and a power source to operate.

My bicycle brakes and derailleurs have not and do not.

BigJeff

yeah, mechanical phones rock.

Campag4life

Funny really. Most can't tell a Chevy from a BMW either.

K.Katso

I can find a few things wrong with that

1) That's old, the newer levers don't look like that anymore
2) Nobody holds their forefinger there
3) It's not even sharp anyway

I have experience with the exact same Ultegra levers you have pictured there, and never had a problem with a sharp edge cutting or pinching my fingers. That which you point to is on the inside of the lever, and the fingers rest on the outside. It's a real non-issue.

Campag4life

Hilarious. You can't even identify what levers you are looking at. Those are Ultegra 6800 levers...the latest model and identical to DA 9000/01.
Many if not most will never get it. This is why Campy exists really...for those that can discriminate. Both Sram and Campy are superior in terms of ergonomics. None have a knife edge under the lever where the forefinger resides when climbing out of the saddle for god's sake.
I built a bike with DA 9000 and rode it for 3 weeks and the shifters flat sucked. Shifted beautifully but felt like I was holding onto a wood fence...lol.

dalava

I see no sharp edges on the 9001 parked in my office as of right now ... even for a self-alleged OCD

Alias530

SRAM feels like something is broken when you shift and costs more for the equivalent part. The only benefit SRAM has is that components generally weigh less.

GlennR

Odd, because i've been riding Rival for 3 years and just got a bike with Red 22 and it shifts flawlessly. I'm quite impressed with it and i've ridden, Ultegra and Dura Ace, for for a ride or two.

dalava

You are still in the honeymoon phase with the new Red

R1lee

I will admit that I have felt those edges that Campag is referring to. Is it sharp enough to cut? I guess sharp is like BMW sharp and blunt is like Chevy blunt, or is it the opposite?

Alias530

Every bike has always felt crunchy when shifting. It could be in the adjustment but I've ridden so many at demo days that I can't imagine that so many of them were adjusted poorly when they were set up to make the best impressions. Maybe it's because the parts were brand new and after a little break in they would be smoother? I don't know, but they all felt awful. Off the top of my head I've ridden bikes with Rival, Red, X7, X9, X0, X01, X1, and XX1. I've ridden less iterations of Shimano but every bike I own has Shimano on it and I far prefer it. Dura Ace on the road bike, XT/XTR on the mountain bike, and 105 on the cross bike.

GlennR

How long is the honeymoon because I put 6000 miles in 3 years on my bike with Rival and liked it enough to get Red on the new bike?

BTW... I got 25mm tires, should I have gotten 23s?

To the OP... yes, it seems there are not many bikes in the showroom with Sram on them. In 2011 I waited for the new Madone 4.6c with Rival. They dropped it the next year do to lack of sales. That doesn't mean it's bad, just that Shimano has higher name recognition.

I just got a new smart phone. I replaced my Motorola with another. I'm sure 99% of the people here will tell me I should of got a iphone. Not because it's better but because they advertise more.

You can do the Shimano vs Sram 1000 times and the "sheeple" will go with Shimano because they know the name with never riding a bike with Sram. I have nothing bad to say about Shimano, I just prefer Sram instead.

And they're not going anywhere.

Oh... i've also ridden Campy and it's great also.

dalava

I think an iphone is better than any of the Motorola phones is a disputed fact, even for 41.

dalava

So why not Campy?

Personally, I think Campy is a completely different animal than Shimano/SRAM, and require different level of commitment.