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Old 02-26-15, 09:29 AM
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will your next bike have electronic shifting?

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It really depends for me. I would not actively stray away from it. But it's also not in my budget (in other words, it's a lot of extra money for not a lot of benefit for a guy like me.) But if in a couple of years new brands hit the market and it becomes just as affordable as any other quality groupset? Sure, it'd be on my list.
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Actually when wireless electronic is a reality, my current bike(s) will have it. No need to wait for a next bike. But I will never buy wired electronic shifting. Feeding those wires through a frame is just stupid.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Feeding those wires through a frame is just stupid.
How is it different from feeding cables through a frame?
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A couple of my buddies have it. Neither one is over the moon about it, so I'll skip the expense.
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No way, nor will it have more than a nine speed cassette. I just don't see the reasoning behind it for the casual rider.
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Next bike will be carbon with either 105 or Ultegra mechanical.


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Probably not. But not because I don't like e shift, but because I tend to buy lower end bikes. Eventually perhaps all bikes will have e shifting (actually I hope not) and if its in my price range, then I'll get it. I'd into think that'll happen for some time though.
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I'll give it a try on my next bike.
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Originally Posted by K.Katso
How is it different from feeding cables through a frame?
+1. Unless it's just an issue of cost. I could see wireless being worth the extra dough but a wired electronic system not. Otherwise, you're feeding cables either way.
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Originally Posted by K.Katso
How is it different from feeding cables through a frame?
Except for the rear brake cable which is stiff and easy to work with, you're right, that is stupid too. Hey, seriously I'm just fooling around. Making fun of how incredibly difficult it can be for a novice to undo a dumb mistake. Don't ask me how I know. At least it was only a friend's bike, so no real problem for me.

But you have got to admit the simplicity of wireless will be a tremendous boon to the electronic shifting implementation. Any frame at all becomes fair game.
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Yeah, I think that I'll go electronic on the SSCX.
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just can't afford it this year.

bike after this coming bike probably will though
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6800 shifts better than Di2 imo.
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Absolutely. After switching to Di2 last year, the electronic bug bit me and now all of our bikes are going that route.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
But you have got to admit the simplicity of wireless will be a tremendous boon to the electronic shifting implementation. Any frame at all becomes fair game.
Absolutely agree. In fact my "old" bike, a 2012 Bianchi, is the perfect candidate. I'm perfectly happy with the frame, but I want to update it from its current 10-speed SRAM Red Group. SRAM Red 22 just wasn't convincing enough for me, but this new wireless group is it. I might even throw it on one of my older bikes that has 11-speed compatible wheels.

I'm sure a lot of other people have a similar situation. There will be quite a few that have been sitting on the fence for a while which may just go ahead and take the plunge, especially if the price isn't too outrageous. It will be especially tempting for a lot of people once they bring it in the Force and Rival groups as well.
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Yes. It will go nicely with my disc brakes.
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so then you have to charge your shifters? that makes no sense. what happens if it dies while you're out on the road stuck in a bad gear? maybe I'm missing something, but this just doesn't make sense to me.
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so then you have to charge your shifters? that makes no sense. what happens if it dies while you're out on the road stuck in a bad gear? maybe I'm missing something, but this just doesn't make sense to me.
The advantage is it really never needs adjustment beyond the initial setup and it doesn't require replacing cables, etc. It's crisp, effortless shifting every time you use it. Apparently, anyway. There's also the advantage of being able to configure the shifters to do different things (like holding the button and shifting all the way through the range); and being able to install additional shifters, like shifters on aero bar ends or little buttons (sprint shifters) in the drops so you can shift without moving your hands. Even climbing shifters that let you shift without moving your hands from the tops to the hoods to shift.

The system on the market now, and presumably those in the future, last quite a while. You aren't going to leave for a century on a fresh battery and be dead by the end. People are reporting in the neighborhood of 1000+ miles on a charge before the red "charge" indicator lights up. The SHORTEST reports I've seen are folks shifting a lot and "only" getting 300 or 400 miles out of a charge. That seems atypical. Di2 uses a lithium battery that doesn't have to deal with the effects of "memory" and other issues of older NiCD/NiMH and even earlier lithium battery technologies, which means you won't harm it by charging it every night and keeping it 'topped up' if you want to. Although all batteries do eventually stop holding the same amount of charge as before. So, presumably, you're going to have to swap the battery pack now and then.

If the battery dies, yes, you're stuck in whatever gear you were last in.

Almost all of the pro's on the peloton are using it but there are a couple who don't like it. Most really do though. Easy accurate shifting every time.
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Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs
6800 shifts better than Di2 imo.
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I have electronic shifting now and won't go back to mechanical.
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Gotta say, I really like the feel of mechanical actuation. I do my own maintenance, so I'm not worried about properly tuning a good group. The mechanical SRAM Red is still my ambition. Even with eTap on the horizon.
I'm willing to hear the case and consider electronic, but as of now, I am not ambitious for it.
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Originally Posted by GHill762
so then you have to charge your shifters? that makes no sense. what happens if it dies while you're out on the road stuck in a bad gear? maybe I'm missing something, but this just doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know how it will be with the new SRAM wireless system, but with Di2 you have to charge the one battery for the whole system. At least this wireless system will have a little bit of redundancy with each component having its own(RD will still work if FD battery is dead, etc). That being said, running out of charge on a ride is almost a non-issue, because with Di2 the battery life is up in the many thousands of shifts. I've put in over 1200km since I fully charged mine, and it isn't even below 50% yet. I think most people should be able to remember to charge it a few times a year, not to mention at least checking it before any big ride. If not, or if it fails for some other reason, there's nothing preventing you from physically wedging it into an easier gear until you get home.
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rather save for a fat bike this summer, looking for folks to unload their fatties when weather warms up

already see many used Di2 sets for sale, next winter expect even more to jump off

After all, I can wait, don't mind manual shifting
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charging my phone is already a chore for me, other than maybe an electric car some day, I'd like to stay unplugged when away from home



Originally Posted by K.Katso
I don't know how it will be with the new SRAM wireless system, but with Di2 you have to charge the one battery for the whole system. At least this wireless system will have a little bit of redundancy with each component having its own(RD will still work if FD battery is dead, etc). That being said, running out of charge on a ride is almost a non-issue, because with Di2 the battery life is up in the many thousands of shifts. I've put in over 1200km since I fully charged mine, and it isn't even below 50% yet. I think most people should be able to remember to charge it a few times a year, not to mention at least checking it before any big ride. If not, or if it fails for some other reason, there's nothing preventing you from physically wedging it into an easier gear until you get home.
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