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Old 03-01-15, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Makin' me feel old - I remember when I was blown away by the prospect of storing 512mb on a USB drive...

Dude, I remember buying a 40 meg hard drive and thinking I got a good deal because it was only $500.
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I may be a bit off on this analysis. But consider that twenty years ago you could spend $3000 and get the top of the line computer. Today, you can spend $3000 and get a top of the line computer.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Dude, I remember buying a 40 meg hard drive and thinking I got a good deal because it was only $500.
I remember when my mother had our 8088 upgraded from dual 5.25" floppies to a single 5.25" floppy and a hard drive. Good times, good times.
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I may be a bit off on this analysis. But consider that twenty years ago you could spend $3000 and get the top of the line computer. Today, you can spend $3000 and get a top of the line computer.
The price of a "good" computer is down considerably. To get to $3k, you're talking Xeons and multiple high-end graphics cards. The fact is that SSD, good video card, 8gb RAM, and your choice of CPU can be done for well under a grand now, and is more computer than almost anyone needs. By contrast, a decade or two ago it took two grand just to have a computer that wasn't a miserable sack of crap.
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I remember playing Microsoft Flight Simulator V1.0. If you rolled the plane upside down you could dive up.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Back in my day (sonny!) I remember we had to take the full install of Quake (original) and tear apart the .pak files to pull out all the single-player monsters and levels so we could squeeze the size down from 90 megs (megs!) to... 12, I think, so it could fit on the 16 meg(!) thumbdrive a classmate's father had gotten at a convention, because that was expensive at the time. The computer people had finally managed to prevent us from installing Quake onto the computers, and onto the network drives, but we could plug the thumbdrive in, mount it from the other computers via network, and play that way. They never figured out a prevention for that.

Of course, these days we'd be arrested for terrorism for that. In the late '90s, that was just boys being boys.
My high-school hijinks with portable storage was a friend and I cloning a Mac lab hard drive so that we could nab Aldus PageMaker and Adobe Photoshop. The tool of choice was the cutting edge Iomega Zipdrive. That was a fun class, though - we also "hacked" the teacher's password, stole the completed assignments and used the free time (because we didn't have to worry about working on the assignments) to mess with other students, hiding their homework in nested folders, etc.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I remember when my mother had our 8088 upgraded from dual 5.25" floppies to a single 5.25" floppy and a hard drive. Good times, good times.
Rich kid, eh?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The price of a "good" computer is down considerably. To get to $3k, you're talking Xeons and multiple high-end graphics cards. The fact is that SSD, good video card, 8gb RAM, and your choice of CPU can be done for well under a grand now, and is more computer than almost anyone needs. By contrast, a decade or two ago it took two grand just to have a computer that wasn't a miserable sack of crap.
Yeah, $3k gets you more than most people know what to do with. Hell, $1.5k does that, too, unless you're editing video, gaming on a huge screen or some such.
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Didn't even last a whole month.

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Originally Posted by Herbie53
I did my first Zwift ride last night. Just wanted some easy tempo after getting home from a week off the bike in Texas buying our new house... mostly did that and the thing is sort of entertaining, but much like riding on a busy MUP the temptations to shake people off your wheel are very great.

Later tonight I'm doing some SST sort of intervals. I may do it on there, be interesting to see how long the train following gets and how often I get smoked at the sprint points.
I pretty much agree. Its fun to see pack dynamics and whatnot, but if you're disciplined, you can do a workout. I don't think you'll get much of a train unless you organize a ride beforehand.
It's really funny to see the people with 11w/kg power.
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Originally Posted by Doug28450
I may be a bit off on this analysis. But consider that twenty years ago you could spend $3000 and get the top of the line computer. Today, you can spend $3000 and get a top of the line computer.
Too bad this does not apply to bikes.

Back then you could get a top of the line bike for $1500.

edit: maybe it was 30 years ago. I am getting really old.
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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
It's really funny to see the people with 11w/kg power.
I'm probably .5w/kg. I'm glad you find humor in that.

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I'm probably 5w/kg. I'm glad you find humor in that.
I'm way less than that. Maybe funny was the wrong word, but I just can't fathom that much power.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The price of a "good" computer is down considerably. To get to $3k, you're talking Xeons and multiple high-end graphics cards. The fact is that SSD, good video card, 8gb RAM, and your choice of CPU can be done for well under a grand now, and is more computer than almost anyone needs. By contrast, a decade or two ago it took two grand just to have a computer that wasn't a miserable sack of crap.
Thus, my point. Obviously the "top of the line computer" from twenty years ago is drastically different from the "top of the line computer" today.

But...

Twenty years ago $3000 got you the best stuff. Today, $3000 gets you the best stuff.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Rich kid, eh?
Straight cash, homey.

Actually, no, quite poor farm family in eastern Connecticut. That computer, at the time, was an extravagance to a point I didn't understand, but my mother used it for her business, and I bonded with it hard enough it should get royalties from my whole career.

Amazingly, my dad still has it, and it works if booted up.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Nice! Most trains don't have cabeese on the ends these days. Get used to it.

I spotted a sweet Yugo the other day.

I wonder how many Yugo parts remain under the skin.
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Originally Posted by Doug28450
Thus, my point. Obviously the "top of the line computer" from twenty years ago is drastically different from the "top of the line computer" today.

But...

Twenty years ago $3000 got you the best stuff. Today, $3000 gets you the best stuff.
You missed my point. This claim always begs the question of what's "top of the line". I could spend considerably more than $3000 on a computer. I could spend that much, or damn near, on graphics cards for a computer. And, does dual Xeon count as a "desktop"? Or can I get away with just an i7? Is it "top of the line" if it doesn't boot from RAIDed terabytes of enterprise SSD?
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Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs
The Stan's stuff works for low psi applications, cyclocross and such....not road pressures.

I saw another post in the old thread regarding the "hassle," of tubeless...Maybe in the beginning, not now.

One caveat, a compressor is a must for initial tire installation. Some people do get lucky with a hand pump, but it's a variable not worth the aggravation IMO.

It takes me maybe 15 minutes to mount a new tire, pop the beads into place via compressor, then deflate and add sealant. Using an injector, and removable core stems, there is no muss or fuss.

Do you have tubeless ready rims?
Sounds like a hassle.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
You missed my point. This claim always begs the question of what's "top of the line". I could spend considerably more than $3000 on a computer. I could spend that much, or damn near, on graphics cards for a computer. And, does dual Xeon count as a "desktop"? Or can I get away with just an i7? Is it "top of the line" if it doesn't boot from RAIDed terabytes of enterprise SSD?
Okay..

I'm dumb.

I quit.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Sounds like a hassle.
The extra few minutes installing the tires pays off when you're not fixing flats on the side of the road...
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Bummer, no record. All that misery for nothing.

Podium!
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Bummer, no record. All that misery for nothing.

That does suck. Likewise, I don't think Boston has had their snowiest winter, yet.
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Okay..

I'm dumb.

I quit.
Sorry. Didn't mean to be a jackass, but I've heard that often enough it's a bit of a hot button for me.
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So I've encountered a new bike problem:

The friend who had the Lotus kept it in his living room, and smoked like Vesuvius. The bike now oozes smoke smell wherever it sits. I had already tossed out the leather saddle, the bar tape, and the brake hood covers (I've gotten TRP RRL levers for it already), and had it stripped to raw frame and fork to take it to the LBS for BB chasing. It left the car smelling smokey.

Yesterday, I disassembled the wheels (to save the hubs) and discovered that the tires are in good shape, but reek. So much so that even the tubes smell smokey. Where part of me wants to recycle the rubber to the new build, methinks I will have to toss it instead.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
So I've encountered a new bike problem:

The friend who had the Lotus kept it in his living room, and smoked like Vesuvius. The bike now oozes smoke smell wherever it sits. I had already tossed out the leather saddle, the bar tape, and the brake hood covers (I've gotten TRP RRL levers for it already), and had it stripped to raw frame and fork to take it to the LBS for BB chasing. It left the car smelling smokey.

Yesterday, I disassembled the wheels (to save the hubs) and discovered that the tires are in good shape, but reek. So much so that even the tubes smell smokey. Where part of me wants to recycle the rubber to the new build, methinks I will have to toss it instead.
Aw, man, that's gross. Why didn't he let a cat piss on it while he was at it?
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