Rule 91: No food on training rides under 4 hours
03-12-15, 06:51 AM
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You're request for proof is kinda silly, since the numbers are not absolute and hard-fixed. It all depends on intensity, muscle mass, ratio of muscle mass to body weight, VO2 max and other factors.
That said, understanding Harvard's Ben Rapaport's findings may be insightful, even though they're specific to marathoning: PLOS Computational Biology: Metabolic Factors Limiting Performance in Marathon Runners
That said, understanding Harvard's Ben Rapaport's findings may be insightful, even though they're specific to marathoning: PLOS Computational Biology: Metabolic Factors Limiting Performance in Marathon Runners
Crits can be more than an hour, and are pretty close to as hard as you can go for much of it. I've never seen anyone eat during a crit. A 20km TT takes about a half hour and is as hard as you can go from start to finish, and nobody eats during those either.
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03-12-15, 07:02 AM
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Your request for a citation is reasonable, but his is "kinda silly"?
Crits can be more than an hour, and are pretty close to as hard as you can go for much of it. I've never seen anyone eat during a crit. A 20km TT takes about a half hour and is as hard as you can go from start to finish, and nobody eats during those either.
Crits can be more than an hour, and are pretty close to as hard as you can go for much of it. I've never seen anyone eat during a crit. A 20km TT takes about a half hour and is as hard as you can go from start to finish, and nobody eats during those either.
You're also confused about eating; I say fueling because I'm talking about stuff you might put in your water bottle, and believe it or not, I see crit racers and TTers drinking stuff other than water out on the course all the time. You know, those colorful or sometimes cloudy admixtures? Usually some carbs in there.
03-12-15, 07:16 AM
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if a rider wants to follow this rule, they would be well advised to take food along with them. I used to live in a place at the top of a mountain, and the best rides ended with a climb. I had some memorable rides where I didn't take food and bonked badly. It's hard to ride up a 3 mile climb when you can only make it a couple of hundred yards at a time. This would happen in the spring when I hadn't been training that much. Took me decades to realize I should just carry food on my bike in case of emergencies
I've ridden many hours without eating in the middle of longer rides. I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's probably better to keep eating. Four hours seems like a lot to go without food. When I was much younger, I used to think 2 bananas was enough for 100 miles, but now I wonder if I wouldn't have been better off with more food than that.
I've ridden many hours without eating in the middle of longer rides. I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's probably better to keep eating. Four hours seems like a lot to go without food. When I was much younger, I used to think 2 bananas was enough for 100 miles, but now I wonder if I wouldn't have been better off with more food than that.
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03-12-15, 08:21 AM
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if a rider wants to follow this rule, they would be well advised to take food along with them. I used to live in a place at the top of a mountain, and the best rides ended with a climb. I had some memorable rides where I didn't take food and bonked badly. It's hard to ride up a 3 mile climb when you can only make it a couple of hundred yards at a time. This would happen in the spring when I hadn't been training that much. Took me decades to realize I should just carry food on my bike in case of emergencies
I've ridden many hours without eating in the middle of longer rides. I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's probably better to keep eating. Four hours seems like a lot to go without food. When I was much younger, I used to think 2 bananas was enough for 100 miles, but now I wonder if I wouldn't have been better off with more food than that.
I've ridden many hours without eating in the middle of longer rides. I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's probably better to keep eating. Four hours seems like a lot to go without food. When I was much younger, I used to think 2 bananas was enough for 100 miles, but now I wonder if I wouldn't have been better off with more food than that.
03-12-15, 09:56 AM
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Ah, the 41 never fails to disappoint. Do you have a source for your claim?
This is really basic stuff - Hitting the wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is really basic stuff - Hitting the wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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"The Rules" are really only fun/right to talk about, not to follow. As much as I really do love them (n+1), I don't believe hardly any of them. Eat food.
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Tonight I'm having a thick steak with blood running out, steak fries with bacon and cheeze, a huge baked potato with a pound of butter and some Texas toast.
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I shoveled snow and raked my roof one day for 4 hrs this winter. I was fine after a full breakfast and then just had lunch afterwards. it was non stop work, maybe not cycling but I was working pretty hard and sweating quite a bit. that weekend I think, I reached a new low weight. so disappointed the snows stopped
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There is a couple of hours of energy stored in your muscles (glycogen.)
So the question is whether you want your blood to go to your stomach (digestion) or your leg muscles (moving forward?)
If you want to loose a little weight go ride without breakfast and you will notice your waist line and eventually your performance!
So the question is whether you want your blood to go to your stomach (digestion) or your leg muscles (moving forward?)
If you want to loose a little weight go ride without breakfast and you will notice your waist line and eventually your performance!
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