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  1. @Commodus, I still don't see an asterisk i your...

    @Commodus, I still don't see an asterisk i your post and have not seen it on any record of past winners. By the way, ASO record's don't really matter as they are merely the event promoter's internal...
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    Seriously, is there any doubt that they were all...

    Seriously, is there any doubt that they were all doping? If USPS/Disco were that good at doping and other teams won than logic dictates that other teams were doping too. That is, unless you believe...
  3. What records have Riis winning with an asterisk-...

    What records have Riis winning with an asterisk- not even wikipedia has an asterisk. When the story broke, that is what the many wanted but it never happend.

    Ullrich was never banned (except the...
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    Poll: That is what the ASO want's to do- and what they...

    That is what the ASO want's to do- and what they can do for their internal records but no one will care. Once the race organizer submits race results to the sport authority (i.e. UCI, USAC, USAT,...
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    1) We all have wants in life- so does the SCA. ...

    1) We all have wants in life- so does the SCA.

    2) The UCI stripped LA of his titles, however, the UCI also stripped Bjarne Riis of his 1996 win so we all know how much that means. That will have...
  6. we all know LA is extremely vindictive but is he...

    we all know LA is extremely vindictive but is he willing to blow up the whole system- the USAC, UCI, USOC, IOC, USADA, WADA and the ASO could all be ruined if he chooses to go on the attack. He...
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    Poll: Let's ask Bjarne Riis what they should do. Dumb...

    Let's ask Bjarne Riis what they should do. Dumb poll as the ASO doesn't have a choice in the matter.
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    That would work. Professional cycling as we know...

    That would work. Professional cycling as we know it would be out of business and therefore the non-existent pro peleton would technically be clean. The reality of your solution simply doesn't work...
  9. Doping was (perhaps still is) a part of the...

    Doping was (perhaps still is) a part of the sport, LA was one of the best at the sport during his time (QED). Doping just seems to be another cycling skill he mastered.

    What seems to be the...
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    This action by the USADA baffles me, can someone...

    This action by the USADA baffles me, can someone explain to me how USADA has jurisdiction over an event or athlete? Last time I checked, the sport's governing federation (UCI) or the athlete's...
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    mandatory? No- they're not slaves. A condition...

    mandatory? No- they're not slaves.

    A condition of employment? Perhaps so.
  12. WADA has an eight-year statute of limitation-...

    WADA has an eight-year statute of limitation- Bjarne Riis owns the '96 win (again) because of this. The whole thing is an absurd movement by USADA to raise more money for their budget through...
  13. my contempt for the pro-cyclists, trying to earn...

    my contempt for the pro-cyclists, trying to earn a living off of their bodies while they can with rules so arbitrary that the only thing keeping them from getting busted is luck (if they're...
  14. Professional cycling long ago decided that...

    Professional cycling long ago decided that attacking a contender during pee breaks, feed zones, mechanicals, and the like is wrong. There used to be guys that would enforce those unspoken rules-...
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    It really doesn't matter. There is, however, a...

    It really doesn't matter. There is, however, a belief that putting the magnet towards the hub is better because weight at the rim slows acceleration by making more weight's inertia to overcome. In...
  16. I don't find the analogy that bad. When a car is...

    I don't find the analogy that bad. When a car is stolen the rest of the car owning society pays (higher insurance premiums,...) so there are some pretty big waves that go around. Additionally, car...
  17. Nothing the IOC does is surprising and very...

    Nothing the IOC does is surprising and very little of it fair. The Olympic movement was an Utopian dream taken advantage of by power hungry manipulators that attempt only to placate fans of minor...
  18. Poll: As entertaining as this bickering is, I think...

    As entertaining as this bickering is, I think I'll post about the poll question- At this point, Armstrong's personal reputation is irrelevant- most minds that care about his doping are already made...
  19. They are all using their own methods to be as...

    They are all using their own methods to be as competitive as they can be- most of those methods violate the spirit of the anti-doping rules even if they don't violate the specific banned list or...
  20. Thread: Bad Move Greg

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    Define "Clean." Are you limiting "clean" to not...

    Define "Clean." Are you limiting "clean" to not using anything specifically on the banned list or to not using any PEDs? If you are using the limited "Banned List," then you may be correct about...
  21. Professional sports exist on the notion of fair...

    Professional sports exist on the notion of fair play. That the game is level and that any team of individual can win or lose based on their skill, luck, to tactics. Doping makes the competition...
  22. Doping is the catch phrase that began to...

    Doping is the catch phrase that began to encompass all PEDs starting in the mid 1980s follow the banning of blood doping. Doping still occurs (ask Fuentes) but the PEDs have overtaken it in...
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    Push Ricco and Pieoli too hard and they blame...

    Push Ricco and Pieoli too hard and they blame their way all the way to the top. Do you think that if their sponsors sue them they won't counter that the sponsors encouraged them to win at any cost? ...
  24. Wow people talk tough on the Internets. Shoot...

    Wow people talk tough on the Internets. Shoot first, ask questions later?

    As long as riders think they can get away with doping then some of them will dope. As long as those guys win races...
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    What are the chances that the team get a new...

    What are the chances that the team get a new sponsor willing to pay the same? Doping is bad for the sport, the instability of the whole organization is worse.
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