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    Carbon has come a long, long ways. They don't...

    Carbon has come a long, long ways. They don't make 'em like this anymore - and for very good reasons.

    Steel frames of that era aren't cutting edge either...but they aren't light years behind...
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    Doesn't sound worth the investment. Maybe if it...

    Doesn't sound worth the investment. Maybe if it were really close and just needed a derailleur or hub servicing. Now a nice steel frameset of that generation...
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    Nice offering. I'll give BD credit for reading...

    Nice offering. I'll give BD credit for reading where the market is heading. Not that it's rocket science or anything...but still.
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    I have an r700 in 170mm I'm trying to unload....

    I have an r700 in 170mm I'm trying to unload. That would be mixing Shimano and Campy though...
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    Silver, black, carbon?

    Silver, black, carbon?
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    Really...10-15 yo frame with 7800 is a halo bike?

    Really...10-15 yo frame with 7800 is a halo bike?
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    Yup - do the full 5800 then if you can swing it...

    Yup - do the full 5800 then if you can swing it (or leave the Allez exactly as is until you can). You get nearly the exact same feel/function to the shifters and brakes, wheels are interchangeable,...
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    Does Nick Saban ride a halo bike?

    Does Nick Saban ride a halo bike?
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    ^ is the rest of your new bike fitted with 6800...

    ^ is the rest of your new bike fitted with 6800 Ultegra? If so (and given the new info about the Mavics), I'd change my vote and point you towards a full 5800 group for the Allez. It might end up...
  10. Yikes, they might want to lawyer up...;)

    Yikes, they might want to lawyer up...;)
  11. Says someone who has never seen the insides of a...

    Says someone who has never seen the insides of a hub...:roflmao2:
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    I'm confused. My $9k ride has a six cylinders /=...

    I'm confused. My $9k ride has a six cylinders /= halo bike. My $400 ride has Shimano 5700 /= BD.
  13. Check the link about the pic for more info. They...

    Check the link about the pic for more info. They are 'manufactured by White Industries' - but I don't think that level of detail (grub screws) is mentioned.
  14. Why did they skip 11?

    Why did they skip 11?
  15. Boyd or November? ...

    Boyd or November?

    http://www.novemberbicycles.com/alloynimbus
    http://www.novemberbicycles.com/storage/DSC_0057.jpg
  16. ...oh that smack down...the great 11-speed one.

    ...oh that smack down...the great 11-speed one.
  17. yup, because the CAAD 10 and Smartweld were crap....

    yup, because the CAAD 10 and Smartweld were crap. :rolleyes:
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    I'm not familiar with the Cervatillo group? +1...

    I'm not familiar with the Cervatillo group?

    +1 on 'upgrading' your current brake pads with Kool Stops or similar.
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    5800 = just over $350 (and only available in...

    5800 = just over $350 (and only available in silver right now from Ribble). Closer to $400 at other retailers. Requires 11-speed compatible rear hub (to get full effect) which OP most likely does not...
  20. Ribble FTW! Add a 4600 group for your rain bike,...

    Ribble FTW! Add a 4600 group for your rain bike, a new 6800 crankset, and...
  21. I'm not familiar with the Giant wheel offerings. ...

    I'm not familiar with the Giant wheel offerings. But there are better options (IMO) than the Mavics. Boyd Altamont for one. Wider rims are the new black...
  22. I wouldn't pay $1300 for the Mavics...

    I wouldn't pay $1300 for the Mavics...
  23. Only on occasion. Ribble usually wins on price....

    Only on occasion. Ribble usually wins on price. It looks like Red 22 and Record might be a hair cheaper at Merlin right now (and Red might have been exactly what you were talking about), but I don't...
  24. +1. I highly doubt anyone is going to build major...

    +1. I highly doubt anyone is going to build major bike highways (in the US), given other funding priorities. But there are some great rails to trails routes, and some resources going into addressing...
  25. non-DA Shimano hubs are priced at nearly the...

    non-DA Shimano hubs are priced at nearly the 'expendable' level. I just wish they had a few more 28 hole options (and 24 fronts).
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