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    That is the art of argument. You are practicing...

    That is the art of argument. You are practicing the art of ad hominem attacks. You are really crushing my points here by avoiding them and going directly for the personal attacks.

    You mention...
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    I am a little doubtful of the last point because...

    I am a little doubtful of the last point because even a conventional touring bike is not defined simply by it's ability to carry racks. We know they didn't design these things as a touring bikes, so...
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    None of those parts are really hand built that is...

    None of those parts are really hand built that is a whole other level. I didn't say anyone has to buy better parts, just that they can. LHT is what you buy when you celebrate xmas at McDonalds,...
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    The key point isn't nebulous "quality", it is...

    The key point isn't nebulous "quality", it is tensile strength (TS). High TS steel dents less easily than low TS steel. all else equal. This means that the high TS steel is more dent resistant for...
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    Wow some kind of multiplier effect, since I just...

    Wow some kind of multiplier effect, since I just made responses to your posts. For instance here I am responding to your post that just discusses the number of responses.



    I'm not really...
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    I have had better luck at private campsites like...

    I have had better luck at private campsites like KOA that hire security than at provincial sites, that seem to be mainly alcohol partying places. In Ontario the government is in on liquor sales so...
  7. Thread: Fenders??

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    Personally I always use fenders on my LHT, they...

    Personally I always use fenders on my LHT, they are the only thing holding it together. Kinda like S&S but cheaper.
  8. I prefer to do cross country touring in the...

    I prefer to do cross country touring in the winter, the ski kind, unfortunately for me I wreaked a leg and have not been out in a long while. I don't really find the thought of bike touring on salt...
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    Those are 25 year old bikes. I agree that steel...

    Those are 25 year old bikes. I agree that steel is probably the better choice, but people can make strong carbon parts. This is the Hoyt ad where they drive over bow frames with trucks. Carbon is...
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    Dents are bad but whether they will affect global...

    Dents are bad but whether they will affect global durability is another mater. All that says is that they are less durable against dents which would be a simple mater to solve when using some other...
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    Surly doesn't make bikes, they make frames, they...

    Surly doesn't make bikes, they make frames, they just make you buy the rest of it because they make more money, and you save some also. But as appealing as that might be, it doesn't seem to be...
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    By the way, as far as the cost of getting stuff...

    By the way, as far as the cost of getting stuff in Canada is concerned I am not talking about the current plunge in the C-buck, I bought 2 bikes worth of stuff when the dollar was at par. There are...
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    I do wonder why we keep supporting the guys who...

    I do wonder why we keep supporting the guys who could give a hoot about us. There are tons of people out there still making touring bikes for tourists that fit, and probably aren't carbon. I know...
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    It is all very charming to talk about what is in...

    It is all very charming to talk about what is in the bike relative to the purpose, but in reality we have no idea. I remain uninformed, and wish someone would inform me what is in the bike-tubing...
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    Not really. Brooks seat, admitedly I stocked two...

    Not really. Brooks seat, admitedly I stocked two from Nashbar when they were 67 dollars, but today 200 is not that hard to spend there; Nitto bars; Sugino cranks, none of that stuff is over the hill...
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    Who says you can't use the higher strength alloys...

    Who says you can't use the higher strength alloys in a thicker wall tube. Some of the better companies use multiple wall thicknesses and butt thicknesses in the same alloy. I addressed all this...
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    On component quality, I think it would be...

    On component quality, I think it would be interesting to look at what people built their LHTs out with before the complete bike was made available and what was on the complete bike. There was...
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    I did elaborate on the whole steel thing...

    I did elaborate on the whole steel thing elsewhere, the fact the steel is sufficient for some purpose is not the same thing as saying it is high quality. On the spectrum of steels it is hard to go...
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    To me that is a chicken and egg issue. There is...

    To me that is a chicken and egg issue. There is no technical problem precluding carbon bikes from carrying racks, but since tourists don't seem to want carbon bikes, the carbon bikes we get are not...
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    Carbon is not a weak or easily damaged material,...

    Carbon is not a weak or easily damaged material, at least not after the specific design needs have been worked out. The problem is nobody is going to buy a carbon bike at current prices if it is...
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    I guess I missed the piece where this guy doesn't...

    I guess I missed the piece where this guy doesn't get to have an opinion. On the first page someone asks him to provide information based on essentially science and deep experience, then ends his...
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    And a good epoxy choice would be WEST G10. Tow...

    And a good epoxy choice would be WEST G10. Tow is also a good choice and often cheaper than cloth. Epoxy is the key. Bamboo builds are often held together with string and epoxy.
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    +1, however the quality of steel would...

    +1, however the quality of steel would immediately impact the touring bike performance. Guess work is required to figure out what "quality" means in this case, but I can give 3 scenarios:

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    +1 omn that. I use bags as bag only in really...

    +1 omn that. I use bags as bag only in really cold weather, otherwise they are quilts. So a purpose built quilt is a better deal.

    If you are large then quilts end up large also, and as Nun...
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    I think opinions are generally a waste of time. ...

    I think opinions are generally a waste of time. But as to whether the underlying information is correct, there are specific differences between cars and bikes: 1) Cars are powered by motors. With...
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