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    I think that it seriously p!$$ed the trooper off...

    I think that it seriously p!$$ed the trooper off that the cyclist was willing to stand up for his rights. I'd also be curious to know what the cyclist as saying when the audio is missing. As well...
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    I suspect that there may be some footage missing....

    I suspect that there may be some footage missing. As it appears to me that the cyclist who was issued the ticket was always in the front. So unless the trooper is talking about something that had...
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    I agree that the cyclist wasn't at fault for...

    I agree that the cyclist wasn't at fault for anything there. And that the trooper obviously had a HUGH chip on his shoulder for whatever reason. What I'm saying is that in the trooper's mind...
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    No, at about the 2:30 or so mark what the cyclist...

    No, at about the 2:30 or so mark what the cyclist was doing was putting his wallet BACK into his pocket. At about the 3:30 or so mark it looks as if he's adjusting said wallet, and is just barely...
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    Watching the video again (and as the first time I...

    Watching the video again (and as the first time I watched the embedded video there is no audio) for the first several seconds of the video it does not appear to me that there they are doing anything...
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    Genec, I've got to agree with you. If a LEO...

    Genec,

    I've got to agree with you. If a LEO doesn't have at the very least a basic understanding of the law, then how can they enforce it? And if they're driving a patrol car then they should at...
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    And any reprimand that he drew was the cyclists...

    And any reprimand that he drew was the cyclists fault and not his for his very unprofessional behavior. And I'd still would like to know what happened to the prosecutor who threatened the cyclists...
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    I'll have to re-watch the video. But again,...

    I'll have to re-watch the video. But again, considering that the cyclist was in fact wearing "skintight" spandex just what might he have had hidden in the way of a weapon?



    What myself and...
  9. I agree, which is why I think that we as cyclists...

    I agree, which is why I think that we as cyclists need to be better then the next guy and make sure that we follow the law/rule of the road so as NOT to incur the wrath of a motorist for something...
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    Really, this isn't a blanket statement? ...

    Really, this isn't a blanket statement?



    That sure sounds like a blanket statement to me. And judging by the roads around me, I can see how and why some would seeing operating on the sidewalk...
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    Agreed, if we're expected to know the law then...

    Agreed, if we're expected to know the law then why is a LEO exempt from knowing the law? That being said, I can see out of the three levels of law enforcement that the average citizen is likely to...
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    You're welcome. I imagine that you get an...

    You're welcome.



    I imagine that you get an earful at times. Question, do you know if when they're out on patrol if they stop cyclists for breaking the law? As I've said in other posts here...
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    Exactly, like I said the cop appeared to have...

    Exactly, like I said the cop appeared to have come out of his car already in a "redline" mode and was looking for any excuse to escalate things into a "violent" take down.



    Exactly, down here...
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    Again, the cyclist only did so AFTER he was...

    Again, the cyclist only did so AFTER he was "ordered" to produce his ID. Just how is he supposed to do so if he doesn't start "digging" in his jersey pockets or saddle bag?!?!
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    Even if that is true, that still doesn't excuse...

    Even if that is true, that still doesn't excuse his actions.



    Go back and watch the video again. As the cyclist did NOT start to "dig" into his pockets until AFTER he was asked for his ID. ...
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    You are showing your ignorance by making the...

    You are showing your ignorance by making the apparent blanket statement that it is always illegal to operate one's bicycle on the sidewalk. Here in Florida per F.S. 316.2065 it IS legal for one to...
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    Agreed, LEOs are doing a very hard and sadly...

    Agreed, LEOs are doing a very hard and sadly thankless job. BUT that in no way excuses poor behavior on the part of law enforcement personnel. And as you've said if we as members of the public...
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    Yes he was, and I think as others here have said...

    Yes he was, and I think as others here have said that he was also trying to provoke the cyclist so that he (the cop) could justify using force to subdue him. And did he (the cop) really need to...
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    No, not law degrees, but slightly more than a...

    No, not law degrees, but slightly more than a basic understanding of the laws that they're supposed to be enforcing. As well as not allowing their personal bias interfere with their doing their...
  20. Gives new meaning to the word pedestrian doesn't...

    Gives new meaning to the word pedestrian doesn't it?



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  21. Agreed, the Mountie being the so called...

    Agreed, the Mountie being the so called "professional" on the scene should have been able to handle the situation without resorting to physically restrain the youth.
  22. And what about the times when a cop is just being...

    And what about the times when a cop is just being a "bully with a badge?" And IF we have to be honest and truthful when we answer their questions then shouldn't they likewise have to be honest and...
  23. I'm sorry, but I saw NOTHING in asmac's post to...

    I'm sorry, but I saw NOTHING in asmac's post to indicate that he goes around "mowing" pedestrians "down." And in certain states, Florida for one it IS legal to operate one's bicycle on the sidewalk...
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    If ignorance of the law isn't excuse for us, it...

    If ignorance of the law isn't excuse for us, it shouldn't be one for the law enforcement or judicial community.

    I agree, to me it seemed as if the cop in question was doing everything short of...
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    Exactly as well as the right to defend oneself...

    Exactly as well as the right to defend oneself with witnesses.



    The cop should have handled things better and realized that no law(s) were being broken.



    Okay, and what is that stop sign...
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