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Girlfriend bought me one of these - I have a cool girlfriend.

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So now we observe the subject (which we will refer to as bdswest) in a desperate attempt to justify his maniacal ravings, indeed in an effort to convince himself that he is an emotionally healthy,...

You see gentlemen, here we have another tragic textbook example of what happens when the subject is deprived of all forms of human love and affection. Truly sad.

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I've bought a bunch of Alivio stuff, 8-speed drivetrain components etc., basically things that have fallen out of favor in recent years (all new btw) on fleabay, really cheap.
Higher end stuff not...

Do it. And post pics, I want to see that.

I was really just messin' with ya bro. :D

This time. :lol:

I would be honored, sir. :beer:

Finally, a voice of reason on this subject.

or 7005 AL




I'm NOT a really skilled rider - does this mean I need to downsize the 180mm front rotors on all my bikes? :eek:

Oh yeah, sure, what if everyone thought that way, then internet forums would merely be places where rational people exchange useful information and ideas - instead of the chaotic, emotionally-charged...

I won't even begin to try and unpack that statement, but you're the one who started this thread with a critical rant about other people's choices, and you're getting reasonable reactions to that.
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Some people like to scale sheer rock faces on mountain tops - not a safe or practical endeavor - but AFAIK not illegal/immoral/unethical either.

To each his own.

And remember kids, if you are considering such a bike, never ever ever start a thread on a forum like this and say "so tell me fellas, what do ya think?".

:hug:

OP, don't let this bunch scare you, beneath all the noob-eating bluster they're really pretty nice guys (well, except for cryptid, I think his mama used to beat him when he was a child :D )

Ride...

I think the start-with-a-hardtail advice usually stems more from budget considerations (you know, better components for the entry-level pricepoint) than from any kind of puritanical thinking about FS...

Exactly, and people being what they are often don't make good choices.

My point to the ones who feel "all" or "most" people are bastards/d-bags is that some may be, but you'll be a happier person...

Mea culpa on the OT posting, but I haven't noticed any personal attacks in this thread, seems pretty civil to me so far.

You know, on second thought, isn't the op a comment on humanity?

Somehow I know I'm going to regret jumping into this, but here goes.

If you have become so bitter because some of your customers were rude to you, didn't treat you with the proper respect, or...

It's really not - 2000 series AL front triangle, steel swingarm, I weighed an old walgoose frame like that once (with the shock) - it was like 12 pounds. That's about the equivalent of three...

Fair enough, so here's me trying to offer some helpful advice -

Read this: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2007/01/understanding-human-relationships/

I humbly suggest that the next time you make a statement and want to be taken seriously that you not conclude your remarks with "Go figure. I'll go cry myself a river or something."

If your forum...

I'm pretty sure he was being facetious with the whole traveling abroad thing (but maybe you already knew that :thumb:)

Nice find. I love those old GT AL frames, they're worth building up.