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    Just as a follow-up in case anyone is curious......

    Just as a follow-up in case anyone is curious...

    The Sora 3500 hubs look pretty solid and weighed in at 524 grams (379g rear, 145g front).
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    Sounds like good news. Thanks guys! I was...

    Sounds like good news. Thanks guys! I was thinking Sheldon was praising Tiagra or 105 hubs but I suppose 3500 is probably now on par with 4400. The only non-marketing info I could find on them was...
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    Wheelbuilders - Sora 3500 hubset?

    Anybody have any experience with or insight into the new Shimano Sora FH-3500 and HB-3500 hubs? I'm considering using them for a low-priced build where durability & longevity are the priority over...
  4. Anybody ever have a chance to look into this and...

    Anybody ever have a chance to look into this and run it by the decision makers? Still seems HIGHLY useful.
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    120-130Nm on all DS spokes and NDS spokes all...

    120-130Nm on all DS spokes and NDS spokes all within a few Nm of each other.




    Yes
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    Ah, forgot about that thing. Looks like the...

    Ah, forgot about that thing. Looks like the Revolutions fit easily in the "1.5" slot and the Competitions fit snugly in the "1.7" slot. Yep, those are the lines on the chart that I used when...
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    Perplexed - Spoke width/tension

    I have a self-built wheelset in which the rear NDS spokes keep loosening. It has a Velocity A23 rim, DTS Competition spokes on DS, and DTS Revolution spokes NDS. 28 spokes.

    I was pretty anal...
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    PM for quotes! ;)

    PM for quotes! ;)
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    Final update... I received the replacement rim...

    Final update...

    I received the replacement rim yesterday. Laced it up, tensioned & trued. Nearly perfect. Wheel was complete with very even tension and true within .006" in about two hours. ...
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    Meh, it's just one huge thread...

    Meh, it's just one huge thread with over 2,500 posts. Tons of good info in there I'm sure but good luck finding an answer to any specific question you have.
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    By the way, I put in a plug to the mods for...

    By the way, I put in a plug to the mods for getting a dedicated "Wheelbuilding" forum under "Bicycle Mechanics". If you have an opinion on this and want to influence their decision feel free to...
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    I completed the three good wheels with one...

    I completed the three good wheels with one attempt each, then the bad rim took four attempts, so I guess you could say I've done seven builds so far! :eek: I learned TONS in the process though. I...
  13. Awesome. Thanks for considering it. Any idea...

    Awesome. Thanks for considering it. Any idea what the normal turnaround on something like this is?
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    Yep, me too. LBS took it back and a replacement...

    Yep, me too. LBS took it back and a replacement is reportedly on its way. Hopefully it will be as good as the other three.
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    DS (kgf) NDS (kgf) Deflection...

    DS (kgf) NDS (kgf) Deflection
    ..109.......61.....0.011"/0.28mm <-- 1st spokes clockwise of valve, looking at it from DS
    ..131.......61.....0.013"/0.33mm
    ..128.......57.....0.015"/0.38mm...
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    I tried but couldn't get a good photo. There is...

    I tried but couldn't get a good photo. There is a slight gap though. The seam is definitely imperfect but I think the question is how "bad" it has to be in order to be not acceptable (especially in...
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    By the way, I built up the 2nd A23 front wheel a...

    By the way, I built up the 2nd A23 front wheel a couple days ago with no issues, so that's three good A23 rims for sure. Hopefully this rear wheel will work out too.
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    Yep, I'd agree. Tried massaging but no change. ...

    Yep, I'd agree. Tried massaging but no change.

    I decided to give it one more try from scratch so I tore it all apart last night and remeasured the spokes to make sure I didn't have an odd sized...
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    Really?!? To me those tension numbers look...

    Really?!? To me those tension numbers look slightly worse than the original tension numbers, albeit higher across the board. DS is still all over the place (76-148).




    Yep, I've been using...
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    Spoke lengths look good. When tension is high...

    Spoke lengths look good. When tension is high the deepest 286's are about halfway extended into the screwdriver channel.

    2nd attempt at truing is complete. It seemed like things were going...
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    +1. Coincidentally, I'm building this wheelset...

    +1. Coincidentally, I'm building this wheelset specifically to replace a Bontrager Race wheelset. Not my fave either.
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    Yeah, I don't have any problem getting it true;...

    Yeah, I don't have any problem getting it true; the problem is keeping even spoke tension at the same time.
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    From my obviously limited experience it seems...

    From my obviously limited experience it seems that just a round of stress-relieving (or mounting a tire, or riding around the block) will take the wheel out of true WAY more than 0.003".




    On...
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    I'll try to get some video tonight or tomorrow...

    I'll try to get some video tonight or tomorrow night. It won't be HD - just from an old digicam, but it should be clear enough to show what's up.




    I suppose it's possible but I was pretty...
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    Well, I tried mrrabbit's 9-step plan for fixing...

    Well, I tried mrrabbit's 9-step plan for fixing the trueness/tension but couldn't get it to work so I set it aside and started working on the other rear wheel. It went together swimmingly well. I...
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