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  1. Well, then, what are these other parts of your...

    Well, then, what are these other parts of your "equation"?
  2. John Forester wrote: " The need for teaching...

    John Forester wrote: " The need for teaching [traffic cycling to] adult Americans is to get them to unlearn all the bad habits and debilitating fears that American motoring society has inculcated...
  3. Cranky, your statements are inaccurate again, and...

    Cranky, your statements are inaccurate again, and again. You need to learn. You state that: "In the U.S. with vehicular cycling it is highly recommended, by John and most vehicular cycling...
  4. You have it all wrong, Cranky! Certainly, it is...

    You have it all wrong, Cranky! Certainly, it is reasonable to consider LAB's actions in terms of politics, because LAB exists to sell more bicycles. The machinations of the LAB board of directors is...
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    Moving to the left to stay out of mandatory right...

    Moving to the left to stay out of mandatory right turn lanes is perfectly lawful. Indeed, it is required by the rules of the road for drivers of vehicles, though not for riders of bicycles.
  6. CrankyOne is incorrect in claiming: "Firstly, a...

    CrankyOne is incorrect in claiming: "Firstly, a primary trouble spot is between junctions with bicycle riders being hit from behind as the recent LAB report indicated, thus the need for cycletracks...
  7. Way back when the AASHTO bikeway standards were...

    Way back when the AASHTO bikeway standards were being created, we hoped that bike paths would be like miniature highways in both design and operation. After all, the rules of the road for drivers of...
  8. This has been a major point in bicycle traffic...

    This has been a major point in bicycle traffic engineering from the very beginning. Consider the points of a diamond labelled, for ease in visualization, N, E, S, W as in the points of a compass. A...
  9. When I last had a regular commuting ride, the...

    When I last had a regular commuting ride, the distance was 11.5 miles which I typically did in 44 minutes, which is 15.7 mph. The terrain was flat, Sunnyvale to Menlo Park, California.
  10. Nearly all motor vehicles can exceed most road...

    Nearly all motor vehicles can exceed most road speed limits. That's irrelevant to this discussion. The relevant point is that the facilities for America's bicycle transportation system are officially...
  11. Being a futurologist is a very problematical and...

    Being a futurologist is a very problematical and dubious profession. But still, what do we do for today? Today's official policy (if anything can be called an official policy in the topsy-turvey...
  12. The facility that you describe is not a bike lane...

    The facility that you describe is not a bike lane but a sidepath, now being promoted as a cycletrack. This type of facility is defined as being alongside the roadway and separated from the roadway by...
  13. It ain't that simple. On most roadways cyclists...

    It ain't that simple. On most roadways cyclists can ride safely as fast as their physical capacity allows. Why then should government build bikeways which are safe only when used at less than half of...
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    Many people have written over the years that the...

    Many people have written over the years that the less one rides like the typical American bicycle rider and the more that one rides in the manner of a driver the easier your traffic experience...
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    The scope of these discussions is not limited to...

    The scope of these discussions is not limited to Washington; they apply to American traffic laws generally, unless there are specific exceptions.

    Your response shows that you don't understand my...
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    The rules of the road for drivers of vehicles...

    The rules of the road for drivers of vehicles apply whenever vehicles are operated on roadways; they do not apply for the operation of vehicles off the roadway, for example when motor vehicles are...
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    Vehicular cycling is cycling in accordance with...

    Vehicular cycling is cycling in accordance with the rules of the road for drivers of vehicles. If all the other drivers are required to obey any rule, then the vehicular cyclist obeys that rule. It...
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    Please read my statement again. It stated that...

    Please read my statement again. It stated that there are no known measurements of cyclist behavior in UK or OZ, and that the US measurements are thirty years old. Without such data, it is impossible...
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    The article in bikeportland that supposedly...

    The article in bikeportland that supposedly reports Mia Birk's replies to criticisms of her editorial, the second reference in the above, post, has just been removed from view. I looked over many...
  20. That is because Americans have been conditioned...

    That is because Americans have been conditioned to strongly believe that it is impossible for them to cycle safely according to the rules of the road for drivers of vehicles. They have been...
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    It can be interesting to speculate about such...

    It can be interesting to speculate about such matters, which might, or might not, have to do with differences in cyclist behavior. But even considering possible differences in cyclist behavior, so...
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    We have argued at length about the slow speed...

    We have argued at length about the slow speed typical of Dutch cycling, with Dutch apologists saying that this is not so. Consider the comments, several, in the video concerning speed. There are...
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    Kickstart is again wrong, twice. First,...

    Kickstart is again wrong, twice.

    First, Kickstart argues that motorists, cyclists, and pedestrian are "all 'subservient' to each other, depending on time, place, and conditions." I have to...
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    http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.p...

    http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by John Forester http://www.bikeforums.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png
    Unfortunately, you are wrong there....
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    Unfortunately, you are wrong there. The specific...

    Unfortunately, you are wrong there. The specific law to which you refer, the cyclist Far-to-the-Right law, was deliberately designed to retain motorists' proclamation that cyclists' prime duty is to...
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